I choose to giggle in joy because that death scene for me was the most memorable Walkyverse happening and Joyce and Mike are my two favorite characters and SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Then I respectfully suggest you rescind much of your rights to complain about not knowing what’s going on, if you both know there’s a lot of backstory, but choose not to go read up on it.
All the same, there is a shred of valid complaint in there, that a newbie will have no idea what’s happening. However, this happens quite a lot with long running stories, especially in webcomics. Just stick it out until you can find the time to catch up.
(And heck … I’m not even fully caught up. I thought I was? But every now and then a character appears I don’t recognise, I click their tag, and OMG WHERE DID THIS BIT OF THE ARCHIVE COME FROM O_O … I’ve managed it for Freefall, and DMFA, and a few others, but the sheer depth of the archived multiverse makes it difficult here. I’ve completely given up on the idea of attempting it with homestuck, too – I’m waiting for the movie version instead.)
I actually went through the archives of Roomies and IW a couple years ago and as much as I loved it, it’s difficult for me to remember every backstory, so I still get confused by a lot of things that come up. But I choose not to go back and review the archives because it’s just going to take way too long. Not complaining at all, just saying I understand where you’re coming from.
Nearly everything I know about “Roomies” and “It’s Walky” comes from spoileriffic comments here and in DoA. So i’ve got this kind of impressionistic idea of the backstory. It’s like… a crowd-sourced synopsis service or summat.
Timemonkey, I have not read all the preceding comics either, but here’s how I understand it:
In the original It’s Walky! comic, Mike and a number of other characters (including Robin) were superpowered agents fighting against an invasion of Martians (or something.) There was a certain technology that allowed you to resurrect/grow a new body for dead people, but you needed tissue samples to make it work.
Mike died in a rather unpleasantly bloody way on a battlefield protecting Joyce. (And calling the thing’s mother a prostitute.) At the time, it was thought that there were no remains left, so they couldn’t bring him back.
It seems like there were some tissue samples left after all!
You’ve pretty much nailed it, right down to the Martians. (The “or something” is right too, though, given the Aliens’ involvement. [And yes, that's the name of their species, shut up.])
Don’t forget the bit about how the technology actually confirms the existence of souls and some kind of afterlife, as that’s how come the regenerated body isn’t then just a hollow, insentient shell… without a vessel, the soul escapes – the resurrection chamber creates a new vessel with a suitably matching genetic signature for the soul to latch back onto.
Quite whether it would work if you made some minor tweaks to the DNA in between is a matter for “later” discussion…
I choose to be somewhat mind-boggled at the broader Walkyverse possibilities raised by this explanation. The technology to BRING BACK THE DEAD is no longer exclusive government property. That could be a big deal in any number of ways.
I’ll save you the trouble. Walky beat the crap out of mike after Dina died.
Come to think about it, It makes sense for Joyce to hold onto his shirt afterwards since they didn’t bring Dina back (you can’t tell me there weren’t blood stains after the bomb practically painted the room with her). I imagine Joyce has a steamer trunk somewhere with blood samples that she collected from all her friends (well, all the ones who’ve bled since then. Let’s not forget how they had to recover Walky’s DNA).
So the government was planning on resurrecting Mike but they couldn’t get hold of the DNA because Joyce gave the DNA and the resurrection plans to a private company.
Yeah, I’d buy it if they stuck a DNR on him but it doesn’t seem to be what’s being said here. Also didn’t the government give the SEMME agents a bunch of perks and rewards for fighting the Martians?
I don’t know why I never made the connection that this is probably how Galasso was bringing back dead folks. I always figured it was blood oath sacrifices into a Lazarus pit.
Hang on, is it for definite that he came back at the same time as / less than nine months after Walky did? After all, it’d take some time for the second chamber to get built anyway…
SHUT UP YOU! … Maybe the Shroud is legit in this universe? Or maybe he didn’t get Martian resurrected. Maybe the Second Coming is actually happening right now, but the J-man is just taking his sweet time before kicking off the whole Rapture thing.
Not if the Ghostbusters get all the ghosts first and that will really make it more difficult for Panty and Stocking to get back in to Heaven. Man, these reader comments really sidetrack everything.
Huh? When did that happen? is that a part of the Joyce and Walky wedding debacle I keep hearing about but cant see because I have no monies to buy it to read it?
It doesn’t exactly play a huge part. We see a glimpse into a universe where Walky never joined SEMME and Joe and Joyce ended up together. In that universe, during the events of the battle that revealed the Aliens to the world, Head Alien (II) half-assedly resurrected Anti-Joyce using necrotech. It doesn’t make much of a difference, though–minutes later, Head Alien II is thrown through the Cheese, aquires dimension-hopping capabilities, we switch into backstory mode and that universe is never seen again.
I always thought they used a stray hair or something from… well use your imagination. Anyway, they used condoms pretty much the entire night, didn’t they? And by that time, the trash would have been bagged up and taken out of the hotel room…
I would hope so. Sperm are haploid and have undergone crossing over, so it would probably be difficult to reconstruct the father from just sperm. But it’s likely that there would be some fully intact genetic material in the emission as well.
(Hair would also not cut it; hair doesn’t carry DNA)
In the comic, though, Joe specifically said all they’d need is a hair. I can’t seem to give you the link for some reason, unless my eaten comments appear later. It was on October 17, 2004 if that helps.
While a sheared strand of hair itself may not be great for getting DNA, hair that is pulled out by the roots may have some connective tissue at the base. In my college Molecular Genetics class, we extracted DNA from that part.
But if it hadn’t, due to say an emergency crisis like a huge battle going on nearby, or if perhaps they decided to try more than one style of foreplay…
I honestly never thought that one was getting answered. It makes me a little nervous you’re giving all this closure this week Willis. This better not be the end of Shortpacked!
I thought they couldn’t find any trace of Mike’s DNA? That was why he couldn’t be resurrected in the first place. Where did Joyce get the blood-stained shirt from? And why didn’t she just give it up instead of passing it off to someone else secretly? He would’ve been resurrected anyways, would he not? He might’ve just had to wait a bit longer for it.
For that matter, if the resurrection was duplicated so easily/quickly, why did the blueprints for it need to be passed off in the first place? Why couldn’t/didn’t the government already have more under construction?
The blood-stained shirt was Joyce’s. She was right under him when he got devoured.
Believe me, once Walky, the token fallen soldier, had been resurrected, the waiting list is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllll billionaires with their fingers in government. They’d get to Mike just about never. Welcome to politics.
All but like two of all of Joyce’s appearances from Walky’s death through to the resurrection chamber scene are from the front; one long shot from above/behind, and one partially obscured from the left hand side. Also, she was wearing that mini waistcoat thingie over the top of her shirt, and she had shoulder length hair.
I don’t want to presume some kind of machiavellian crazy long term bit of forward planning (though it does seem to happen in the WC arena; cf. El Goonish Shive, Freefall et al), but there were enough places for a few crucial spots of blood to have been hidden from view throughout all that, having dripped onto Joyce’s shirt from a bloody tentacle, off-panel. She might not have even known whose blood it was, just that it wasn’t hers, and may well belong to some fallen comrades. Handed over the tech and the shirt to the rival company, and seen what they could extract and analyse from it, finding out happily that (at the very least) there was viable Mike-DNA on there. If he was crunched rather than just stabbed, the stain may have included whole cells (or remnants of them) from other tissues rather than just typically non-full-sequence blood cells, too.
Question is, did she also pick up stains from other fallen colleagues? Might there also have been a second Walky body at least partially generated (she surely got a bit of a splashback from him due to, IDK, his missing an arm, her having to crush the amputation site, and hugging him tight) until someone noticed? And did anyone manage to scrape what was left of Tony off the rock and start him regenerating in sufficient time before his cosmic trace faded?
(Said rival company could probably have made ten chambers at once almost as easily as just one … or, ten more after proving the first one was a workable prototype)
Argh… one question answered, a hundred more generated.
“Token fallen soldier”? The dude singlehandedly ended the war! (Okay, him, Alan, and Monkey Master. And David Sr., indirectly. ) Government folks are total dicks.
Rosenthal Industries (maker of Ultra-Car and his irritating cybernetic brothers) is the company that resurrected Walky, so they would be the ones that the politicians are all lined up for.
Well if the wedding at Shortpacked didn’t confirm it I can safely say Amber and Mike are staying put seeing as how it was Galasso who resurrected Mike and she couldn’t betray him like that.
I like to picture Joyce and him having one of those comedic conversations where they are talking about different things and don’t realize it. Like she dialed the wrong number, and didn’t realize her mistake.
She asks if he deals in stuff like robots, and he says he just got in a shipment of Dinobots. She asks if he is affiliated with the government, and he goes on about how governments kneel before Galasso, not the other way around. She says she wants to send him designs for a machine where you put in organic goop and out pops a lifeform, and he says he already has Creepy Crawler machines, etc.
Ronald Reagan and Jesus Christ were cloned and worked for Galasso so he must have access to some cloning technology. He also knows something about the drama tag so perhaps he financed that too. I wouldn’t be surprised seeing as how he could be an eccentric millionaire obsessed with dominating the toy market.
I don’t think that’s sufficient evidence that Galasso was connected to the resurrection machine. He could have just found out about the cloning machine from Mike, after hiring him, and been raiding the tech company’s dumpsters and stealing the defective products they tossed in the garbage. Specifically, they tossed Reagan and Jesus in the garbage, and Galasso took them home like stray kittens.
This resolves one point, and forms another question. I’m starting to think Galasso’s thoughts of being a ruler are not unfounded. So, does he secretly own a tech company? Is he affiliated with a crime group? This calls for a storyline.
Also, interesting interaction between Joyce and Amber. Hopefully there will be more in-universe crossovers like this at other points, besides Joe, Robin, and Mike being around.
Rosenthal was a government-affiliated tech company, hence why they were in charge of the resurrection chamber to begin with. Joyce leaked the info to a NON-government-affiliated tech company.
DUR! Galasso’s got Mike working for him, why would Mike work for Galasso? Galasso revived Reagan AND Jesus. How would he do that? (how would he get the ACTUAL blood of jesus is another story.) It makes sense! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
I feel this is probably showing my naivete, but I don’t know who the “short guy with the blue sash” is and checking the last few comics of the group shots didn’t help. Please alleviate my ignorance fellow commenters.
I dare say McAwesome’s has the resurrection chamber. Aside from Walter Mondale, I’d say a debt to them would be what keeps Mike putting up with the job where he has to be drunk. It’s not like he needs two paychecks given his entertainment budget is about five cents a night.
I’m starting to wonder if DW is getting ready to end Shortpacked! It seems like he”s answering a lot of of old questions and winding up narrative threads lately…
I always wondered just how much Amber got of Mike’s death. I still wonder if Amber ever learned that Mike died telling an alien to tentacle rape him some more.
1/ Telling the monster to do it BETTER
2/ Insinuating that he has, at least technically, fucked the tentacle monster’s Mom (or in that case, vice-versa)… and she was, if still not good, at least not as bad.
Wait wait, has the Missus Willis weighed in on this yet? I remember certain anecdotes of her going to greeaat lengths to find out the answer to the Mike mystery.
I think artemi was referring to the earlier half of the comic, where Joyce apologizes for the (it appears) massive brawl that broke out at their wedding.
I thought Machete was the child of Danny and… someone else in an alternate reality? Or something…? I didn’t think it was Joyce and Walky’s child, but my memory of that incident is fuzzy…
See, I’m going to start heartily shipping Joyce and Mike. Joyce and Ethan are improbable at best, although probably cute and interesting friends, but Joyce and Mike is where it’s at.
Ahh, Joyce, you do know you to be subtle! And you look so pretty in your dress! Also, I forgot who said her son is ugly, but I think he’s so adorable! albeit in a mousey sort of way…
When a mommy and a horrific abusive philandering asshole of a daddy… wait, no, they didn’t even love each other. This is Amber’s Dad we’re talking about here. Um…
Yay resolutions.
Feels anti-climatic though. I expected something about kicking satan in the nuts, sleeping with his mom and crotch punching his way through hell. Though I guess it could be both.
In fairness, even if she thought to herself “Hey, that guy looks like historical Jesus would have looked”, it’s not exactly likely to spring to mind as the most likely explaination. Especially since the actual historical Jesus, if he existed, probably didn’t wear a blue sash, and certainly didn’t wear a blue sash over a poly-cotton blend retail uniform.
Wait.
This could be significant. -are- their uniforms made of blended fabric?
Alternate theory, since the name Galasso is an Italian form of Galahad, he is, in fact, the Arthurian Galahad and has access to the Holy Grail, and the blood it caught at the crucifixion.
Seeing an older, more worldly-wise version of Joyce is pretty disconcerting, like the DoA Jocye I know has suddenly zoomed through a decade of character development. (and of COURSE the kid has her eyes….)
“Sorry I couldn’t get you the Lazy Susan that plays the Transformers theme song, but I AM responsible for your husband even being here. So, there’s that.”
I like this explanation.
I’m glad there IS an explanation.
I still chose to believe Mike’s revival was due in a large part to Galasso being frickin’ Galasso
Okay I read the last two years of the Joyce and Walky comic and never saw them having a kid together; where did the kid come from? The mystery that is Bobby Walkerton is hurting my head!
As far as we’ve seen, the only consequences of resurrection are a mirror-imaging of your body–your dominant hand changes, all your organs are on the wrong side, etc.
omg what a wedding present for amber knowing that joyce gave the sample needed so she could have mike alive to marry. knew joyce was mroe then the wholesome school girl she always acted like. though amber marrying a clone makes the union more evil
Wait, “blue sash”? Might I inquire as to what and where? I’m inclined to guess Faz, but he’s not wearing a sash (at least not in the one good shot of him I could see).
I have to say, seeing Joyce here actually made me a little sad. I love DoA, but seeing them side by side reminds me of all the growth that Alpha Joyce went through to be the person I think is so awesome (and how many years it took to go with her through it), and how far DoA-verse Joyce still has to go. Although to be fair to her, that is not hardly as far as she has to go in re-reading Roomies…
Why does she have to change? Just because she disagrees with everyone around her? She treats everyone around her well, even when she stumbles through things and is confused. She takes everyone at their word and looks at things positively. Everyone on here is kind of condescending, I think, with their, “poor Joyce needs to grow and become wise and grand like us.”
What’s wrong with stupid innocence?
That was your early wedding present =B
Wow.
I never thought you’d actually answer that question.
(That said, this only raises MORE questions about Galasso and his connections.)
Easy. He has a brother who owns said tech company, and owes him many, many favours.
Works for me.
That still leaves open the question of how he managed to get ahold of the genetic material of Ronald Reagan and the historical Jesus.
The Sudarium of Oviedo has a really strong link to the Historical Jesus, and the only way to disprove the link is to disprove the Historical Jesus.
As for Reagan, just dig up the bones, a femur should have enough residual genetic material…
link does not exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sudarium_of_Oviedo
Sorry, classified information was leaked. Isn’t it funny that I read this comic and noticed this thread in the comments? What a small world.
Maybe Gallaso is the product of an early test run…
I’m sure Faz has graphs of Galasso’s relevant connections.
Does it though? I don’t see how Galasso is connected. For whatever reason, Mike ended up at the store. At least now we know why he’s alive
I choose to be vaguely disappointed by this explanation.
I choose to be vaguely pleased with this explanation
I choose to be amazed and awed that after seven and a half years there IS an explanation.
I choose to be amazed that more scones do not contain lug nuts. .. also agreement with Dr. Whom up there.
I choose to wonder if lug nuts would mess with the baking process of said scones.
(And Order of the Stick avatar ftw!)
I choose to point out that LugNut would never mess with the baking of scones, providing, of course, that those scones were FOR THE GLORY OF MEGATRON.
I choose to believe you are AWESOME for this comment.
I don’t get your gravatar. What does “Freedom Stredom Stream!!” mean?
You’re not fooling anybody, KingMob. We all know who you really are behind the Eyes Only mask. Ultracar!
…Or Michael Weatherly. One of the two.
I knew the whole explanation myself, before Joyce answered the question, comeon now, lol!
I choose to giggle in joy because that death scene for me was the most memorable Walkyverse happening and Joyce and Mike are my two favorite characters and SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I choose to be vaguely confused about this whole thing as I don’t know who most of these characters are or their histories.
I choose to recommend that you go read Roomies and itswalky
My confusion is a choice due to my decision to not read those. Your recomendation is appreciated though.
Be prepared not to sleep or leave your computer for a while.
Then I respectfully suggest you rescind much of your rights to complain about not knowing what’s going on, if you both know there’s a lot of backstory, but choose not to go read up on it.
All the same, there is a shred of valid complaint in there, that a newbie will have no idea what’s happening. However, this happens quite a lot with long running stories, especially in webcomics. Just stick it out until you can find the time to catch up.
(And heck … I’m not even fully caught up. I thought I was? But every now and then a character appears I don’t recognise, I click their tag, and OMG WHERE DID THIS BIT OF THE ARCHIVE COME FROM O_O … I’ve managed it for Freefall, and DMFA, and a few others, but the sheer depth of the archived multiverse makes it difficult here. I’ve completely given up on the idea of attempting it with homestuck, too – I’m waiting for the movie version instead.)
I actually went through the archives of Roomies and IW a couple years ago and as much as I loved it, it’s difficult for me to remember every backstory, so I still get confused by a lot of things that come up. But I choose not to go back and review the archives because it’s just going to take way too long. Not complaining at all, just saying I understand where you’re coming from.
Whatever happened to Walkypedia? That could help some of the newer readers. I love these comics though, it’s like seeing an old friend again.
Walkypedia broke and Willis couldn’t fix it, but you can still find most of it on web.archive.org .
It was pretty ill-updated anyway.
I don’t know how fast you read, but I did an archive binge of Roomies and IW over the weekend in about four or five hours.
(hahahah i was an obnoxious piece of shit back in the day. WAIT SHIT I STILL AM)
I was never able to match that speed for archive binges that far back, simply due to bad internet speed
Lol he’s not complaining! He was joking and it was cute and funny! Calm down, you pedant, or I’ll sick the pedant-eaters on you.
They look like Joyce in today’s dumbing of age comic. = P
Who was complaining?
I know, right? Pedants, man. Pedants.
Nearly everything I know about “Roomies” and “It’s Walky” comes from spoileriffic comments here and in DoA. So i’ve got this kind of impressionistic idea of the backstory. It’s like… a crowd-sourced synopsis service or summat.
Timemonkey, I have not read all the preceding comics either, but here’s how I understand it:
In the original It’s Walky! comic, Mike and a number of other characters (including Robin) were superpowered agents fighting against an invasion of Martians (or something.) There was a certain technology that allowed you to resurrect/grow a new body for dead people, but you needed tissue samples to make it work.
Mike died in a rather unpleasantly bloody way on a battlefield protecting Joyce. (And calling the thing’s mother a prostitute.) At the time, it was thought that there were no remains left, so they couldn’t bring him back.
It seems like there were some tissue samples left after all!
You’ve pretty much nailed it, right down to the Martians. (The “or something” is right too, though, given the Aliens’ involvement. [And yes, that's the name of their species, shut up.])
Don’t forget the bit about how the technology actually confirms the existence of souls and some kind of afterlife, as that’s how come the regenerated body isn’t then just a hollow, insentient shell… without a vessel, the soul escapes – the resurrection chamber creates a new vessel with a suitably matching genetic signature for the soul to latch back onto.
Quite whether it would work if you made some minor tweaks to the DNA in between is a matter for “later” discussion…
I choose to be somewhat mind-boggled at the broader Walkyverse possibilities raised by this explanation. The technology to BRING BACK THE DEAD is no longer exclusive government property. That could be a big deal in any number of ways.
And all this time, I thought Mike got out by pissing everyone else off so much they booted him.
Hahahaha, I wonder if anyone else got this comment
Wait, I thought they were planning to resurect Mike if they could find some of his DNA? Oh who cares, Joyce did something awesome.
They couldn’t find any of his DNA ‘cuz Joyce donated her shirt.
…*runs and checks Mike’s death scene to see if he got blood on her shirt*
Nope.
Honestly, though, any of Mike’s dirty laundry could’ve done the trick.
Maybe they got the DNA from Your MOM.
No, Willis used a similar gag already.
But it has to be -his- blood.
Not his blood, necessarily, just his DNA…
Whoops, I misread who you were replying to! That would have made perfect sense if “It has to be -his- blood” was a response to the “Your mom” bit…
Maybe the shirt that Mike was wearing when Walky beat the shit out of him after the first Britja attack?
See I was disturbingly thinking it might have been Walky’s shirt from when he beat the crap out of Mike right after Dina died.
Joyce would have to be wicked-prepared to hold onto that given the time gap.
I don’t see it as wicked prepared just refusing to go near that sweatshirt
wait no he beat the crap out of him when he slept with Dina, no I think I had it right the first time.
Damnit I do not want to have to go sloughing through the archives for this
I’ll save you the trouble. Walky beat the crap out of mike after Dina died.
Come to think about it, It makes sense for Joyce to hold onto his shirt afterwards since they didn’t bring Dina back (you can’t tell me there weren’t blood stains after the bomb practically painted the room with her). I imagine Joyce has a steamer trunk somewhere with blood samples that she collected from all her friends (well, all the ones who’ve bled since then. Let’s not forget how they had to recover Walky’s DNA).
One of my favourite parts of that story line is where some Walky DNA was being (ahem) “stored”, thus allowing him to be brought back.
So the government was planning on resurrecting Mike but they couldn’t get hold of the DNA because Joyce gave the DNA and the resurrection plans to a private company.
Why not just let the government do it?
Because this way Mike gets to piss someone off… FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE!!!!!!
It also explains why he’s working in a toy store (kind of).
I always took it that the government had other priorities for the technology. Like, you know, the non-asshole people they could be using it on.
Yeah, I’d buy it if they stuck a DNR on him but it doesn’t seem to be what’s being said here. Also didn’t the government give the SEMME agents a bunch of perks and rewards for fighting the Martians?
Because fuck the government?
For a Nickle?
[have to keep that meme alive ya'know]
I don’t know why I never made the connection that this is probably how Galasso was bringing back dead folks. I always figured it was blood oath sacrifices into a Lazarus pit.
Golasso just went to graveyards, dug up the corpses, slapped them across the face, put a uniform on them and sent them to work.
I’d question that, but considering some of the retail employees I’ve dealt with, it’s not too far-fetched.
Hey … you might be on to something there.
Maybe Mike’s at Shortpacked! because he’s now indentured labour… working off a life debt to Galasso for resurrecting him. Or something.
…Where did Galasso get Reagan and Yeshua DNA?
They’re gray-blooded robots.
Honestly, I thought Mike would have more of a Lobo thing going on. Neither heaven nor hell wanted him, blah blah. Glad to see this, though.
He did Death’s mom for a nickel. Death was mad and sent him back lol.
And I am floored.
OH MY GOD WILLIS BEST ANNIVERSARY PRESENT EVER THANK YOU
…Of course, the critic in me is now asking how they got around the nine-month rule, but whatever.
…OF COURSE! BECAUSE THERE’S TWO CHAMBERS HE COULD BE RESURRECTED CONCURRENTLY WITH WALKY!
After Semme modified the alien tech, Apple made the same machine only slimmer, faster, and it could hold up to 5,000 songs.
And then they patented the idea of chambers and sued anyone else who even considered making one (not just resurrection chambers; chambers in general.)
Chamber pots, Chamber maids, Dark Chambers, Wilt Chamberland…the list goes on.
Wilt Chamberland? What is that, a Wilt Chamberlain-themed amusement park?
“C’mon Molly! Let’s ride the Slam Dunker!”
You don’t even WANT to know what they did to the Wu-Tang Clan for the 36 chambers THEY had.
And that’s why X’s upgrades are in capsules instead.
You just made my day with that. Thanks.
Hang on, is it for definite that he came back at the same time as / less than nine months after Walky did? After all, it’d take some time for the second chamber to get built anyway…
If he used the same chamber as Walky–which we now know he didn’t–he had five months to come back maximum.
Alright, pay up. People who bet on Joyce get all the clams.
Sweet. Assuming that it WAS Galasso behind it then (and that’s not exactly explicit), how did he get Jesus’ DNA?
Shroud of Turan?
Shroud of Turin.
The Shroud of Turin is from the 14th century (ish).
SHUT UP YOU! … Maybe the Shroud is legit in this universe? Or maybe he didn’t get Martian resurrected. Maybe the Second Coming is actually happening right now, but the J-man is just taking his sweet time before kicking off the whole Rapture thing.
Golasso prayed for the son of god and God decided that Jesus should get a job to help pay heaven rent.
Heaven Rent is the name of my next band.
But you need to kill ghosts to get Heaven coins and that’s the only currency used in heaven.
Not if the Ghostbusters get all the ghosts first and that will really make it more difficult for Panty and Stocking to get back in to Heaven. Man, these reader comments really sidetrack everything.
If Catholic theology is anything to go by, all he had to do was steal some wine and communion wafers from a local church.
It only works with God as an accomplice.
Well even God gets bored and it was time for the kid to move out.
All he has to do is go and take communion, and then regurgitate the wine (which has already been transubstantiated) into the resurrection chamber.
A little Manischewicz, a lot of transubstantiation.
He time-traveled for this.
Ah, wait a minute. It wasn’t ‘blood’ they used to resurrect Mike, it was his sperm was it not?
You’re thinking Walky, dude. Joyce never did it with Mike.
Maybe she got some of it from her mom.
Other Joyce did… but she’s dead too. OMG what if she was resurrected and applied to McAwesomes?! AUGHHH!
She was resurrected in an alternate universe as a cyborg. By Head Alien.
Huh? When did that happen? is that a part of the Joyce and Walky wedding debacle I keep hearing about but cant see because I have no monies to buy it to read it?
It doesn’t exactly play a huge part. We see a glimpse into a universe where Walky never joined SEMME and Joe and Joyce ended up together. In that universe, during the events of the battle that revealed the Aliens to the world, Head Alien (II) half-assedly resurrected Anti-Joyce using necrotech. It doesn’t make much of a difference, though–minutes later, Head Alien II is thrown through the Cheese, aquires dimension-hopping capabilities, we switch into backstory mode and that universe is never seen again.
That was Walky. From all the premarital hanky-panky.
I always thought they used a stray hair or something from… well use your imagination. Anyway, they used condoms pretty much the entire night, didn’t they? And by that time, the trash would have been bagged up and taken out of the hotel room…
Condoms break.
I would hope so. Sperm are haploid and have undergone crossing over, so it would probably be difficult to reconstruct the father from just sperm. But it’s likely that there would be some fully intact genetic material in the emission as well.
(Hair would also not cut it; hair doesn’t carry DNA)
In the comic, though, Joe specifically said all they’d need is a hair. I can’t seem to give you the link for some reason, unless my eaten comments appear later. It was on October 17, 2004 if that helps.
While a sheared strand of hair itself may not be great for getting DNA, hair that is pulled out by the roots may have some connective tissue at the base. In my college Molecular Genetics class, we extracted DNA from that part.
But if it hadn’t, due to say an emergency crisis like a huge battle going on nearby, or if perhaps they decided to try more than one style of foreplay…
*BOOM*
I honestly never thought that one was getting answered. It makes me a little nervous you’re giving all this closure this week Willis. This better not be the end of Shortpacked!
Last time he had a wedding the universe froze for a couple of years…
I know everyone has already said this, but yay for explanations.
I thought they couldn’t find any trace of Mike’s DNA? That was why he couldn’t be resurrected in the first place. Where did Joyce get the blood-stained shirt from? And why didn’t she just give it up instead of passing it off to someone else secretly? He would’ve been resurrected anyways, would he not? He might’ve just had to wait a bit longer for it.
For that matter, if the resurrection was duplicated so easily/quickly, why did the blueprints for it need to be passed off in the first place? Why couldn’t/didn’t the government already have more under construction?
The government wanted to “sleep on it.”
The blood-stained shirt was Joyce’s. She was right under him when he got devoured.
Believe me, once Walky, the token fallen soldier, had been resurrected, the waiting list is aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllll billionaires with their fingers in government. They’d get to Mike just about never. Welcome to politics.
Is Steve Jobs alive in the Walkyverse? I want to live there.
But if you actually look at the art there’s no blood.
Of course not. Because 1) it was a really small amount and 2) folks would be asking me about Mike’s blood seen on Joyce’s shirt for eight years.
So how long have you been sitting on this?
I’d say about eight years.
OK, I know the whole shebang has been carrying on for a decade and a half … but, really 8 years since that big showdown? 8? -head asplode-
*archive trawls*
Yes, yes it was. Give or take about two weeks. Criminy.
All but like two of all of Joyce’s appearances from Walky’s death through to the resurrection chamber scene are from the front; one long shot from above/behind, and one partially obscured from the left hand side. Also, she was wearing that mini waistcoat thingie over the top of her shirt, and she had shoulder length hair.
I don’t want to presume some kind of machiavellian crazy long term bit of forward planning (though it does seem to happen in the WC arena; cf. El Goonish Shive, Freefall et al), but there were enough places for a few crucial spots of blood to have been hidden from view throughout all that, having dripped onto Joyce’s shirt from a bloody tentacle, off-panel. She might not have even known whose blood it was, just that it wasn’t hers, and may well belong to some fallen comrades. Handed over the tech and the shirt to the rival company, and seen what they could extract and analyse from it, finding out happily that (at the very least) there was viable Mike-DNA on there. If he was crunched rather than just stabbed, the stain may have included whole cells (or remnants of them) from other tissues rather than just typically non-full-sequence blood cells, too.
Question is, did she also pick up stains from other fallen colleagues? Might there also have been a second Walky body at least partially generated (she surely got a bit of a splashback from him due to, IDK, his missing an arm, her having to crush the amputation site, and hugging him tight) until someone noticed? And did anyone manage to scrape what was left of Tony off the rock and start him regenerating in sufficient time before his cosmic trace faded?
(Said rival company could probably have made ten chambers at once almost as easily as just one … or, ten more after proving the first one was a workable prototype)
Argh… one question answered, a hundred more generated.
Thus explaining why Lith became a terrorist.
…you know, I mean this as a joke, but the more I think about it… while that’s what they were doing with the chamber, what DID become of Lith?
So that wait is for the Rosenthal Industries resurrection chamber, right? So what was the rival company that got the plans? Robo-vac Inc.?
Mattel.
It took them a few tries to resurrect Mike successfully. The first attempt resulted in a bizarre mutated version with pale skin and dark hair.
Sounds like the Joker. I used to work for a toy company, I’d hate to see what they would come up the first oh, dozen times.
“Token fallen soldier”? The dude singlehandedly ended the war! (Okay, him, Alan, and Monkey Master. And David Sr., indirectly. ) Government folks are total dicks.
Oh my god, you guys.
That company was Rosenthal Industries, wasn’t it?
That’d be awesome. I’d totally trust Joe with the power to raise the dead.
Next time we get a look at his place, I’m going to keep an eye out for Marilyn Monroe.
That would put that Joyce and Walky! comic where Joe talks about wanting to bang Cleopatra in a whole new light.
Rosenthal Industries (maker of Ultra-Car and his irritating cybernetic brothers) is the company that resurrected Walky, so they would be the ones that the politicians are all lined up for.
Well if the wedding at Shortpacked didn’t confirm it I can safely say Amber and Mike are staying put seeing as how it was Galasso who resurrected Mike and she couldn’t betray him like that.
Because Galasso owns a tech company?
I like to picture Joyce and him having one of those comedic conversations where they are talking about different things and don’t realize it. Like she dialed the wrong number, and didn’t realize her mistake.
She asks if he deals in stuff like robots, and he says he just got in a shipment of Dinobots. She asks if he is affiliated with the government, and he goes on about how governments kneel before Galasso, not the other way around. She says she wants to send him designs for a machine where you put in organic goop and out pops a lifeform, and he says he already has Creepy Crawler machines, etc.
WIN.
Ronald Reagan and Jesus Christ were cloned and worked for Galasso so he must have access to some cloning technology. He also knows something about the drama tag so perhaps he financed that too. I wouldn’t be surprised seeing as how he could be an eccentric millionaire obsessed with dominating the toy market.
I don’t think that’s sufficient evidence that Galasso was connected to the resurrection machine. He could have just found out about the cloning machine from Mike, after hiring him, and been raiding the tech company’s dumpsters and stealing the defective products they tossed in the garbage. Specifically, they tossed Reagan and Jesus in the garbage, and Galasso took them home like stray kittens.
This resolves one point, and forms another question. I’m starting to think Galasso’s thoughts of being a ruler are not unfounded. So, does he secretly own a tech company? Is he affiliated with a crime group? This calls for a storyline.
Also, interesting interaction between Joyce and Amber. Hopefully there will be more in-universe crossovers like this at other points, besides Joe, Robin, and Mike being around.
Where is everyone getting Galasso from? I assumed when Joyce said tech company she was referring to Joe…the father of all super cars!
Yes, thank you! Also, why would Joyce trust some random company with resurrection abilities? Giving it to Joe makes much more sense.
Rosenthal was a government-affiliated tech company, hence why they were in charge of the resurrection chamber to begin with. Joyce leaked the info to a NON-government-affiliated tech company.
Ahh, gotcha! I guess the devil is in the details….so, what other tech companies are out there!?!?
Well, there’s pre-merger Weyland.
WIN.
Yeah, but if you go to Wayland you’ve got Joruus C’Boath to deal with.
Theres this one toystore with the tendency to bring back the 80s
DUR! Galasso’s got Mike working for him, why would Mike work for Galasso? Galasso revived Reagan AND Jesus. How would he do that? (how would he get the ACTUAL blood of jesus is another story.) It makes sense! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
How old is Bobby? Not too old to ship with Donna in fifteen years, I hope?
(I plan ahead.)
He’d be around two or three.
Baby Shipping. It’s not just a way to save money on flying anymore.
It took me a second to get the joke there.
That comment was horrible in all the right ways.
I feel this is probably showing my naivete, but I don’t know who the “short guy with the blue sash” is and checking the last few comics of the group shots didn’t help. Please alleviate my ignorance fellow commenters.
It’s Jesus.
soon followed by
Joyce & Jesus
And Shortsashed!.
Rocking of Ages.
Empty Tomb-ies?
ReLordicons.
Godsome.
I dare say McAwesome’s has the resurrection chamber. Aside from Walter Mondale, I’d say a debt to them would be what keeps Mike putting up with the job where he has to be drunk. It’s not like he needs two paychecks given his entertainment budget is about five cents a night.
You mean FDR. Walter Mondale is still alive.
Unless he dies at some point and used a martian resurrection chamber in real life…
Yes, FDR. I don’t know why I typed Mondale instead, though it did make for a funnier line of thought.
hahahaha
How do you pay him back?
By doing his mom. for a nickel.
This answers one question, but raises so many others…
sprays a water hose in your face*
That’s how Willis works.
I’m starting to wonder if DW is getting ready to end Shortpacked!
It seems like he”s answering a lot of of old questions and winding up narrative threads lately…
“Hey, Bobby. I saved your mom. For a new body.”
I always wondered just how much Amber got of Mike’s death. I still wonder if Amber ever learned that Mike died telling an alien to tentacle rape him some more.
No, no, not telling him to do it more–insulting his technique.
I doubt Amber would be surprised.
Considering this is Amber if it hadn’t ended in death it might have turned her on.
1/ Telling the monster to do it BETTER
2/ Insinuating that he has, at least technically, fucked the tentacle monster’s Mom (or in that case, vice-versa)… and she was, if still not good, at least not as bad.
Wait wait, has the Missus Willis weighed in on this yet? I remember certain anecdotes of her going to greeaat lengths to find out the answer to the Mike mystery.
Well, now we know the ressurection story for the 3rd revived character at this wedding.
I think my legs literally went numb at the second-to-last panel. I didn’t think that would ever be answered. This is awesome.
This, Willis.
THIS is how you get people interested in reading the pay section. *laugh*
But Mike’s death is in the free comics, and this is the first bit of info ever given that alludes to how Mike was resurrected.
I think artemi was referring to the earlier half of the comic, where Joyce apologizes for the (it appears) massive brawl that broke out at their wedding.
Or Willis’ confession on Twitter that this revelation was supposed to happen during the Walky wedding.
Hey, when was Bobby/Machete born?
I thought Machete was the child of Danny and… someone else in an alternate reality? Or something…? I didn’t think it was Joyce and Walky’s child, but my memory of that incident is fuzzy…
That’d be DJ- Danny and Sal’s alternate universe kid. Machete could’ve been a Walky/Dorothy child.
Nope, Machete’s parents were Joyce and Walky.
Read the anniversary. It’s how they explain…er…the source of his nickname.
The anniversary… that’s the new comic Willis is putting up, right?
Anyway, I don’t have access to the pay comic so admittedly my knowledge of Machete’s identity was quite limited.
Shit, misspoke. Read the pay comics. THOSE explain everything.
So many replies… none of them answering my question.
Sometime around late 2010.
-like-
Huh. Resurrection chamber technology.
Now I’m wondering if the Go’uald and/or Doctor Who (or Doctor Whooves) was somehow involved as well.
Nope. Doctor Hoo
Martians, actually.
Don’t look at me, I was ill that day.
That Bobby kid is UGLY.
No, he’s a squirrel. Show some interspecies respect.
Gah! Joyce and Ethan in the same panel in both comics at the same time! This is too much for my feeble brain to handle!
You know it’s probably on purpose right?
See, I’m going to start heartily shipping Joyce and Mike. Joyce and Ethan are improbable at best, although probably cute and interesting friends, but Joyce and Mike is where it’s at.
In anycase:
BAM! BACKSTORY RESOLUTION / CLOSURE OUT OF NOWHERE.
Just like that.
Fantastic. And possibly one of the best of all likely explanations too.
Ahh, Joyce, you do know you to be subtle! And you look so pretty in your dress! Also, I forgot who said her son is ugly, but I think he’s so adorable! albeit in a mousey sort of way…
I am so in love with you right now!
Amazing tilbit of information…
*gasp* It’s all coming together. Now, is there any way to explain Faz?
Not even wibbly wobbly timey wimey can explain Faz (even with unlimited flow charts and graphs)
When a mommy and a horrific abusive philandering asshole of a daddy… wait, no, they didn’t even love each other. This is Amber’s Dad we’re talking about here. Um…
Magic. Magic did it.
Joyce’ kid is sooooo cute!
I want to EAT HIM UP.
Hmm. Appropriate avatar?
Yay resolutions.
Feels anti-climatic though. I expected something about kicking satan in the nuts, sleeping with his mom and crotch punching his way through hell. Though I guess it could be both.
Oh, that all happened in the time between Mike’s death and resurrection, but they were for funsies instead of him battling his way out.
First time I’ve ever actually squeed aloud at a non-cutesy website. Thanks, DW!
I’ve been waiting 2 years for that explanation!!!!
Of course Joyce wouldn’t recognize Historical Jesus! Awesome throwaway gag.
In fairness, even if she thought to herself “Hey, that guy looks like historical Jesus would have looked”, it’s not exactly likely to spring to mind as the most likely explaination. Especially since the actual historical Jesus, if he existed, probably didn’t wear a blue sash, and certainly didn’t wear a blue sash over a poly-cotton blend retail uniform.
Wait.
This could be significant. -are- their uniforms made of blended fabric?
I quite like this explanation actually and it’s something I could really see Joyce doing.
Ok now that makes sense for mike’s resurrection, but where did they find DNA for historically accurate jesus?
Galasso uses Christ’s burial shroud as a tablecloth.
Alternate theory, since the name Galasso is an Italian form of Galahad, he is, in fact, the Arthurian Galahad and has access to the Holy Grail, and the blood it caught at the crucifixion.
Technically you can go to any church, get some wine and bread, and you can make your own Jesus
My quaker church doesn’t keep wine or do communion.
I think if you plugged those things into a resurrection device all you’d get was a shitload of wheat and grapes.
Seeing an older, more worldly-wise version of Joyce is pretty disconcerting, like the DoA Jocye I know has suddenly zoomed through a decade of character development. (and of COURSE the kid has her eyes….)
JOYCE!!! MY Joyce!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!
Okay, when did Joyce and Walky actually get married? And Amber was there? o_O When did I miss this?
I’m fairly new to walkyverse, but I read the Roomies, It’s Walky, and Joyce & Walky archives. Did I skip over something? Is there more somewhere else?
Text below Tuesday’s strip: http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/05-merger-and-restructuring/wardrobe/
Awesome! I will have to make that purchase next paycheck!
Thanks for the info!
I’m amazed this finally got revealed, and out of nowhere too. Not disappointed though
Welp, that’s a helluva wedding present.
“Sorry I couldn’t get you the Lazy Susan that plays the Transformers theme song, but I AM responsible for your husband even being here. So, there’s that.”
I like this explanation.
I’m glad there IS an explanation.
I still chose to believe Mike’s revival was due in a large part to Galasso being frickin’ Galasso
Okay I read the last two years of the Joyce and Walky comic and never saw them having a kid together; where did the kid come from? The mystery that is Bobby Walkerton is hurting my head!
They had him after the wedding, obviously.
How has that much time passed? Is the birth in any of the pay for it comics?
The pay-comics are trapped in 2010, because that’s when the wedding started and the wedding isn’t finished being drawn.
Mike is a clone? Does that mean he’s got a shorter lifespan? Like Solid Snake?
If so Walky’s in for a nasty surprise.
As far as we’ve seen, the only consequences of resurrection are a mirror-imaging of your body–your dominant hand changes, all your organs are on the wrong side, etc.
It took a comment in DoA to realize that the guy in the blue sash is Jesus. And Joyce didn’t recognize him. O.O
Would you have recognized him?
omg what a wedding present for amber knowing that joyce gave the sample needed so she could have mike alive to marry. knew joyce was mroe then the wholesome school girl she always acted like. though amber marrying a clone makes the union more evil
I don’t think it counts as a clone since it stemmed from original cells and it retains memories.
I’d also say it doesn’t count because the current Mike has a soul, but… well, that’s debatable.
Off-topic, but relevant to Walky’s interests; Tor.com is doing a rewatch of B:TAS.
Wait, “blue sash”? Might I inquire as to what and where? I’m inclined to guess Faz, but he’s not wearing a sash (at least not in the one good shot of him I could see).
Secrets revealed! OMG!!! I may or may not have squealed like a little girl.
I have to say, seeing Joyce here actually made me a little sad. I love DoA, but seeing them side by side reminds me of all the growth that Alpha Joyce went through to be the person I think is so awesome (and how many years it took to go with her through it), and how far DoA-verse Joyce still has to go. Although to be fair to her, that is not hardly as far as she has to go in re-reading Roomies…
Why does she have to change? Just because she disagrees with everyone around her? She treats everyone around her well, even when she stumbles through things and is confused. She takes everyone at their word and looks at things positively. Everyone on here is kind of condescending, I think, with their, “poor Joyce needs to grow and become wise and grand like us.”
What’s wrong with stupid innocence?