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	<description>Toys are serious business.</description>
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		<title>By: NotBatman</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-126815</link>
		<dc:creator>NotBatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mogo is female. Score one for the female Green Lanterns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mogo is female. Score one for the female Green Lanterns?</p>
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		<title>By: Lukkai</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-97924</link>
		<dc:creator>Lukkai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;m imagining Tedd building something of the sort.


uh oh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And <i>now</i> I&#8217;m imagining Tedd building something of the sort.</p>
<p>uh oh</p>
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		<title>By: Shockwave</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-90191</link>
		<dc:creator>Shockwave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, there are plenty of female Green Lanterns. And considering the human-centric view of the DC universe, they are essentially all human, just with different skin color (Arisia) or weird hairdoes (Boodika).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, there are plenty of female Green Lanterns. And considering the human-centric view of the DC universe, they are essentially all human, just with different skin color (Arisia) or weird hairdoes (Boodika).</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-89593</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, because when male characters are used that way, it’s normal. But when female characters are, it’s obviously sexism.&quot;

It is when it ISN&#039;T as common for that to happen to a male character, and the main characters are all male, and female characters don&#039;t last long or aren&#039;t important or rapidly start to suck because the writers can&#039;t be bothered to write a decent character who happens to be female... you get the idea.

Or did you forget that THE origin of the phrase &quot;stuffed in the fridge&quot; came from a really lame GL story?

Stop and think what it would be like to have NOBODY, at first, even matching your gender as a hero character, let alone an important one... and then suddenly, there is one! Or even more than one! But then all that crap happens to them. All that crap happens to them, without it really being &quot;about&quot; them; it&#039;s all about the character of the opposite gender who hogs all the story time.

And imagine that that&#039;s all you get of characters that happen to be the same gender as you. Imagine that nine times outta ten, the other gender gets all the cool stories or all the long-running stories, or all the attention IN stories. Imagine that your gender&#039;s characters are written to suck or worse, just written to die in some way that&#039;s supposedly traumatizing to somebody who isn&#039;t them. 

Imagine that IS all or most of what you get. 

Imagine that &quot;character of the same gender as you who happens to be a good character who gets good stories consistently and for a fairly long run because the writers actually care enough to make it good and the publisher cares enough to actually promote it&quot; ISN&#039;T common, it&#039;s ... &quot;refreshing&quot;. 

Imagine you have to use the words &quot;refreshing&quot; with that. Imagine that that isn&#039;t common, it&#039;s UNUSUAL.

That is what it is like to try and read comics as a woman.

Yes, there are comics that buck or seem like they will buck that trend - like Marvel&#039;s Runaways, or Batwoman over at DC-  but that&#039;s the thing:

THERE IS A TREND TO BUCK.

It&#039;s not like I can&#039;t enjoy a story that happens to be about a male character. It&#039;s just that, you know, ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE. And when they aren&#039;t, it&#039;s usually disappointing. And when they are, it&#039;s &quot;for a change&quot;, it&#039;s &quot;suprisingly good&quot;, it&#039;s... &quot;refreshing&quot;.

I wanted to believe that nowadays it had improved, or was improving... and then they fucked up Starfire in &quot;Red Hood&quot;, and I just said &quot;fuck it&quot; to anything other than Batwoman.

Because Batwoman is... Refreshing.

Sadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, because when male characters are used that way, it’s normal. But when female characters are, it’s obviously sexism.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is when it ISN&#8217;T as common for that to happen to a male character, and the main characters are all male, and female characters don&#8217;t last long or aren&#8217;t important or rapidly start to suck because the writers can&#8217;t be bothered to write a decent character who happens to be female&#8230; you get the idea.</p>
<p>Or did you forget that THE origin of the phrase &#8220;stuffed in the fridge&#8221; came from a really lame GL story?</p>
<p>Stop and think what it would be like to have NOBODY, at first, even matching your gender as a hero character, let alone an important one&#8230; and then suddenly, there is one! Or even more than one! But then all that crap happens to them. All that crap happens to them, without it really being &#8220;about&#8221; them; it&#8217;s all about the character of the opposite gender who hogs all the story time.</p>
<p>And imagine that that&#8217;s all you get of characters that happen to be the same gender as you. Imagine that nine times outta ten, the other gender gets all the cool stories or all the long-running stories, or all the attention IN stories. Imagine that your gender&#8217;s characters are written to suck or worse, just written to die in some way that&#8217;s supposedly traumatizing to somebody who isn&#8217;t them. </p>
<p>Imagine that IS all or most of what you get. </p>
<p>Imagine that &#8220;character of the same gender as you who happens to be a good character who gets good stories consistently and for a fairly long run because the writers actually care enough to make it good and the publisher cares enough to actually promote it&#8221; ISN&#8217;T common, it&#8217;s &#8230; &#8220;refreshing&#8221;. </p>
<p>Imagine you have to use the words &#8220;refreshing&#8221; with that. Imagine that that isn&#8217;t common, it&#8217;s UNUSUAL.</p>
<p>That is what it is like to try and read comics as a woman.</p>
<p>Yes, there are comics that buck or seem like they will buck that trend &#8211; like Marvel&#8217;s Runaways, or Batwoman over at DC-  but that&#8217;s the thing:</p>
<p>THERE IS A TREND TO BUCK.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like I can&#8217;t enjoy a story that happens to be about a male character. It&#8217;s just that, you know, ALMOST ALL OF THEM ARE. And when they aren&#8217;t, it&#8217;s usually disappointing. And when they are, it&#8217;s &#8220;for a change&#8221;, it&#8217;s &#8220;suprisingly good&#8221;, it&#8217;s&#8230; &#8220;refreshing&#8221;.</p>
<p>I wanted to believe that nowadays it had improved, or was improving&#8230; and then they fucked up Starfire in &#8220;Red Hood&#8221;, and I just said &#8220;fuck it&#8221; to anything other than Batwoman.</p>
<p>Because Batwoman is&#8230; Refreshing.</p>
<p>Sadly.</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I want this to be canon.

I would SO read that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I want this to be canon.</p>
<p>I would SO read that.</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-89590</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say &quot;...since when is Indigo &quot;purple&quot;? o.O&quot;

And then I googled it.

Most of the &quot;indigos&quot; I&#039;ve seen have definitely been more blue - in fact, a quite lovely shade of it - but apparently &quot;electric indigo&quot; and &quot;deep indigo&quot; are pretty dang purple, as is the HTML version.

Soooo... apparently indigo is &quot;anything you freaking feel like that is somewhere between baby blue and ultraviolet&quot;. 

I learned something today. Something kind of annoying, but something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say &#8220;&#8230;since when is Indigo &#8220;purple&#8221;? o.O&#8221;</p>
<p>And then I googled it.</p>
<p>Most of the &#8220;indigos&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen have definitely been more blue &#8211; in fact, a quite lovely shade of it &#8211; but apparently &#8220;electric indigo&#8221; and &#8220;deep indigo&#8221; are pretty dang purple, as is the HTML version.</p>
<p>Soooo&#8230; apparently indigo is &#8220;anything you freaking feel like that is somewhere between baby blue and ultraviolet&#8221;. </p>
<p>I learned something today. Something kind of annoying, but something.</p>
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		<title>By: Kschenke</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-88996</link>
		<dc:creator>Kschenke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 02:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, you&#039;re fine to get defensive. I get pretty snarky with stuff like this, hence my comment. But the fact is that I do care enough to use my buying power to force a change by not buying the majority of mainstream comics anymore... which DC has interpreted to mean that women aren&#039;t their main demographic so why worry about it? It&#039;s a generalization I realize, but in a lot of ways that&#039;s why mainstream entertainment still has trouble with having as many well written and respected female characters as male characters in any given project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, you&#8217;re fine to get defensive. I get pretty snarky with stuff like this, hence my comment. But the fact is that I do care enough to use my buying power to force a change by not buying the majority of mainstream comics anymore&#8230; which DC has interpreted to mean that women aren&#8217;t their main demographic so why worry about it? It&#8217;s a generalization I realize, but in a lot of ways that&#8217;s why mainstream entertainment still has trouble with having as many well written and respected female characters as male characters in any given project.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-88663</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 22:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody really care that this new GL is a Muslim? Just like with Alan Scott being gay, I don&#039;t give a crap. I don&#039;t care who a fictional character sleeps with or prays to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody really care that this new GL is a Muslim? Just like with Alan Scott being gay, I don&#8217;t give a crap. I don&#8217;t care who a fictional character sleeps with or prays to.</p>
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		<title>By: gwalla</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-88631</link>
		<dc:creator>gwalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that is the joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is the joke.</p>
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		<title>By: gwalla</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2012/comic/book-14/04-proposition-for-69k/baz/#comment-88629</link>
		<dc:creator>gwalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a good question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That <em>is</em> a good question.</p>
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