Exactly Chris – Satan (or rather, Lucifer, seeing as “Satan” means “adversary” and he is not God’s adversary) and God are on the same side.
Satan / Lucifer / The Morning Star (and so on…) is basically God’s jail warden and soul police.
If there really is an entity that stands opposed to God and Christianity then it’s definitely *not* the guy that rules hell.
We have this image of Hell as a place of fire and brimstone that demons use as a combined home and command and control center to make their visits to earth with. It’s not. It’s a place of punishment, and Satan won’t be ruling squat. Also, while he will eventually be cast into Hell, it hasn’t happened yet. Currently, Satan is known as prince of the earth, and he’s residing right here. Earth is the place he was cast down to when he fell from Heaven, and he hasn’t moved anywhere else yet.
The fire and brimstone picture of hell came from 18th and early 19th century big tent revival style evangelists that used it to scare people into being christians. What the bible says about Hell is that it is a place of darkness where there will be pain and gnashing of teeth. Also, it’s the only location where an omnipresent God has withdrawn his spirit from.
Actually, if you READ the Bible, we learn that Hell is actually five different places with five different names given the same name in English because who knows why. Sometimes the words translated into English “Hell” are translated into other more innocuous things depending on context, such as the Hebrew word “Sheol,” which originally meant “the grave,” a place underground where everyone went when they died regardless of how they lived. Sometimes that gets translated into “Hell” (which means something entirely different in modern context) and sometimes it gets translated into merely “the grave.”
The concept of Hell is a mess, especially within the Bible. I wouldn’t be so confident about what the Bible says about it. It changes depending on which book you read and at what point in translation you consider. The 18th/19th century hellfire and brimstone iteration is equally as made up as most of the translations in the Bible itself, or at least as made up as the composite version of Hell that translations require us to configure if we assume all Biblical iterations are correct.
You’re right about the translations–until Jesus comes along. It’s Jesus who first develops the idea of “hell” within Christianity. The Old Testament never gives a clear picture of it. We’ve got Gehenna, where the worm doesn’t die and it’s burning and awful and so on, which is a picture of the ‘after warfare’ fate of evil in Hosea etc. We’ve got Sheol, which is death itself, like you said there.
But it’s a stretch to say “hellfire and brimstone was made up in the 18/19 century.” We have the gospels dating back to at least 60 years after Jesus’ life, in which Jesus talks about what happens to those who oppose him. (Parable of the unjust servant, anyway? Parable of the guests at the wedding feast? I’m sure you’re familiar with the endings)
Like you’ve pointed out in your comics, Jesus isn’t all chill and peace. He basically invented the theological idea of hell.
Gehenna is just a geographical location outside of Jerusalem, a cursed area where children were once sacrificed to Moloch. It was referred to as “the burning place.” You would tell people you don’t like very much that you’d like them to go there. You know. To be burned to death. Jesus didn’t make that up. It predated him.
Wait. Why does Unicron change body models between panels?
Because he’s Unicron, and Unicron can do anything he wants to
I always wondered about Satan. I mena the guy pretty much look God in the eyes and said “I’m better then you”
The only explanation is Statan is blind…
Actually, I think it was more of a “you can’t tell me what to do!” sorta deal
actually Satan works for God he weeds out all the bad eggs with his temptations and takes care of the disciplinary procedures
Satan throws the best concerts. Probably because of all the Virtuous Pagans.
Exactly Chris – Satan (or rather, Lucifer, seeing as “Satan” means “adversary” and he is not God’s adversary) and God are on the same side.
Satan / Lucifer / The Morning Star (and so on…) is basically God’s jail warden and soul police.
If there really is an entity that stands opposed to God and Christianity then it’s definitely *not* the guy that rules hell.
–Myk
Um… no. Not if you READ the Bible, anyway.
We have this image of Hell as a place of fire and brimstone that demons use as a combined home and command and control center to make their visits to earth with. It’s not. It’s a place of punishment, and Satan won’t be ruling squat. Also, while he will eventually be cast into Hell, it hasn’t happened yet. Currently, Satan is known as prince of the earth, and he’s residing right here. Earth is the place he was cast down to when he fell from Heaven, and he hasn’t moved anywhere else yet.
The fire and brimstone picture of hell came from 18th and early 19th century big tent revival style evangelists that used it to scare people into being christians. What the bible says about Hell is that it is a place of darkness where there will be pain and gnashing of teeth. Also, it’s the only location where an omnipresent God has withdrawn his spirit from.
Actually, if you READ the Bible, we learn that Hell is actually five different places with five different names given the same name in English because who knows why. Sometimes the words translated into English “Hell” are translated into other more innocuous things depending on context, such as the Hebrew word “Sheol,” which originally meant “the grave,” a place underground where everyone went when they died regardless of how they lived. Sometimes that gets translated into “Hell” (which means something entirely different in modern context) and sometimes it gets translated into merely “the grave.”
The concept of Hell is a mess, especially within the Bible. I wouldn’t be so confident about what the Bible says about it. It changes depending on which book you read and at what point in translation you consider. The 18th/19th century hellfire and brimstone iteration is equally as made up as most of the translations in the Bible itself, or at least as made up as the composite version of Hell that translations require us to configure if we assume all Biblical iterations are correct.
You’re right about the translations–until Jesus comes along. It’s Jesus who first develops the idea of “hell” within Christianity. The Old Testament never gives a clear picture of it. We’ve got Gehenna, where the worm doesn’t die and it’s burning and awful and so on, which is a picture of the ‘after warfare’ fate of evil in Hosea etc. We’ve got Sheol, which is death itself, like you said there.
But it’s a stretch to say “hellfire and brimstone was made up in the 18/19 century.” We have the gospels dating back to at least 60 years after Jesus’ life, in which Jesus talks about what happens to those who oppose him. (Parable of the unjust servant, anyway? Parable of the guests at the wedding feast? I’m sure you’re familiar with the endings)
Like you’ve pointed out in your comics, Jesus isn’t all chill and peace. He basically invented the theological idea of hell.
Gehenna is just a geographical location outside of Jerusalem, a cursed area where children were once sacrificed to Moloch. It was referred to as “the burning place.” You would tell people you don’t like very much that you’d like them to go there. You know. To be burned to death. Jesus didn’t make that up. It predated him.
So I guess Adaptus is Buddha.
This comic is hilarious.
I am a firm believer in atechnogenesis, because it’s awesome.