Shortpacked! by David Willis

by David Willis on February 7, 2006 at 12:00 am

06 - The Drama Tag

└ Tags: frank miller, whores

Discussion (38) ¬

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CyberSkull

May 26, 2010 at 2:04 am | # | Reply

That about sums it up, really.
wykstrad

August 8, 2010 at 12:23 am | # | Reply

Now, now, let’s be fair- not all Miller’s female characters are whores.

Some are strippers.
- Shift
  
  November 22, 2010 at 2:31 am | # | Reply
  
  Or if its Wonder Woman, then she’s a bitter militaristic hypocritical feminist. Who later demonstrates whore-like traits…
  
  I honestly think that Robin-Carrie is the only female character Miller has written that wasn’t a whore. At least at first…
- bekachan
  
  April 4, 2011 at 6:41 pm | # | Reply
  
  And some are naked lesbians.
  - Joebo
    
    November 28, 2011 at 1:35 pm | # | Reply
    
    Statistically speaking, most lesbians are naked at some point, but then so is everyone.
AMD

August 8, 2010 at 6:34 am | # | Reply

Not only did he fail to write a story without a woman being a whore, he also resorted to his old stand by of padding out his story with repetative use of the same line. All that is missing is the disgusting pedophilia over-tones.

Can anyone pin-point the exact point Miller went from being a competent writer to completely insane?
- Stith
  
  September 23, 2010 at 2:02 am | # | Reply
  
  I hate to say it, but when Frank stopped the nose candy, his comics just went downhill fast. Either that or when he divorced Lynn Varley.
Wackd

September 14, 2010 at 3:27 pm | # | Reply

WhoreswhoreswhoreswhoreswhoreswhoreswhoreswhoreswhoresPROSTITUTES
- Soundbucket
  
  December 24, 2010 at 2:24 pm | # | Reply
  
  oh god I lol’d
  - BMeph
    
    February 5, 2011 at 5:22 pm | # | Reply
    
    I am immensely proud that I took a big gulp of coffee, read the above comment…
    
    …and swiftly moved my wireless keyboard onto the bed!
- ChaosKiwi
  
  November 29, 2011 at 7:28 pm | # | Reply
  
  ….That is wonderful
Wereviking

September 15, 2010 at 11:06 am | # | Reply

Oh so it isn’t just me who feels that way? Relief.

W

Zephyr — a superhero webcomic in prose
http://wereviking.wordpress.com
tiggerpete

April 18, 2011 at 3:29 am | # | Reply

oh jeez, I forgot about this one, I think this strip is what got me into this series in the first place
- Uncle Rylon
  
  January 14, 2013 at 8:21 pm | # | Reply
  
  ditto
chipsnopotatoes

April 18, 2011 at 11:36 pm | # | Reply

So, what happens in the next panel? You can’t leave us in suspense like this!
- agent57
  
  August 15, 2011 at 3:48 pm | # | Reply
  
  …whores.
SonicBlueRanger

July 13, 2011 at 1:38 pm | # | Reply

And thus Linkara was givin a go to joke for pretty much every single Frank Miller comic ever.
LuffySP

December 15, 2011 at 2:44 am | # | Reply

Glad I am not the only one who sees the rampant sexism in comics (and manga) and Frank Miller takes the cake. It kind of rips me in twian I will admit. The feminist half of me is outraged that all female characters are whores. The lusty part of me is always like “ZOMG! Rosario Dawson in leather! I WANNA EAT HER!” And thus, a conundrum.
- newHelm
  
  August 26, 2012 at 11:34 pm | # | Reply
  
  You can make a girl sexy without making her a whore, Esmarelda from hunch back for example. I got my first wood from her.
dragoonchris

January 3, 2012 at 4:00 pm | # | Reply

So how come this guy is still alive
Boojum

February 3, 2012 at 10:53 pm | # | Reply

Okay,
First off love this comic.
Not really disagreeing with the rampant sexism in comics or Frank Miller’s integral role in perpetuating this… but I’ll play devils advocate. You really should all check out the Martha Washington comics. She’s kind of a great character… and its one of the least popular things hes done. So while he has a responsibility to avoid lapsing into what seems like all too familiar themes and characterization with him, some of his reputation now is due to the market. Of course he’s known for the comics where he treats women like sh*t, thats what people are reading. Real quick, when you heard about Frank Miller, what did you here was “essential reading”? 300, Sin City, BatMan (where the commissioner is a stupid liberal woman) right? Maybe daredevil (which I haven’t read and wont comment on). Even though he does have massive problems with characterization, the man is great at genre, art, and matching them to thematic insight. And while he built a reputation around the “grittier” parts of his resume, his real mistake is trying to replicate this success by playing up and emphasizing the “Damsel in Distress” and hardened prostitute lesbian tropes instead of bringing more nuance and dimension to his gift with stylized storytelling and genre. Not gonna lie, loved parts of Sin City, particularly “Family Values”, in which the strippers take revenge on the mob for accidentally killing one of their lovers. But there are huge problems with it (The magic, silent, naked Japanese assassin for one), and the shame is the lack of growth. Its exciting because it suggests there can be depth, but then you read everything else and realizes that’s all there is. Its bad writing, failing to fully realize the world you’ve built by populating it by silent cardboard bimbos. Its what frustrates me in comics, sometimes they excite me intellectually and viscerally, only to disappoint by (sometimes accurately) assuming their audience cant understand complexities. But sadly, there’s a smaller market reading comics centered around an independent, smart black woman who keeps the ball rolling (and her clothes on) when everyone else has failed. What Im trying to say is, the man has produced ONE sci-fi genre gem that manages NOT to constantly whack you in the face with its problems while being genuinely funny and deserving its heart, and is worth checking out. Just saying.
- zhaktrul
  
  June 22, 2012 at 5:39 pm | # | Reply
  
  I don’t think I’ll ever have the patience to read this comment just from shear wall of text even though I’m an avid book worm. Don’t worry, I don’t get it either.
  - foL
    
    April 18, 2013 at 8:04 am | # | Reply
    
    I read the comment, and he’s bitching about how Frank Miller’s stories are populated with silent cardboard bimbos, and how he has trouble with characterisation. He also mentioned the good things, including his popularity, and skill in areas other than characters. And he’s made one worthwhile (unspecified) sci-fi.
- Valdrax
  
  April 7, 2013 at 9:35 am | # | Reply
  
  Paragraphs, man!
  (i.e. TL;DR)
Taigan

February 15, 2013 at 8:21 pm | # | Reply

This and the last one are possibly my favorite one-shot Shortpacked comics, and they came out right after one another.
Lis

May 13, 2013 at 3:13 am | # | Reply

I mentioned this comic to my friend recently as back story to a story about a mutual friend and his comment on me mentioning the setup (Frank Miller writing a non-whore female character) was “Can’t be done.” Neither of us are huge comic fans I just thought it was funny that he came to the same conclusion as Willis without hearing the end of the story.