We’re selecting for stupidity, selfishness, and contrariness.
Stupid people see no reason why they should limit their breeding. Selfish people are smart enough know why they shouldn’t overdo it, but don’t give a damn, so they have too many children. Finally contrary people won’t let anybody tell them what to do, and so reproduce irresponsibly.
So intelligent, responsible people are removing themselves from the gene pool by reproducing responsibly.
That’s not it. Watch those idiots on shows like Jackass and think to yourself… at one point they made fantastic bear bait. We just don’t need them for bait anymore yet we still think at the back of our minds, “I better keep this moron around so I have someone to trip.”
Yeah, Idiocracy has a funny premise but isn’t based on, like, science or anything. Smart people can have dumb offspring and dumb people can have smart offspring. Our collective IQ has actually risen in the past 50 years.
Our collective IQ, yes. As people like the “but why is smaller item smaller? I don’t get it!” guy above prove, we still have people that are somehow dumber than rocks, and still alive.
“Hi!”
“Excuse me, I’m busy checking restraints and confirming dispatches.”
“I lost my hat while I was on the roller coaster.”
“You mean the one I advised you to take off and set aside?”
“It fell down into your fenced-off area, right there.”
“Oh, I see, the area I could get fired on the spot for wandering into while the ride is operating. Hey, look, it’s right next to the high-voltage equipment.”
“So you’re going to go in and get it, right?”
“Hm. Am I going to abandon my post where I am vitally important to the successful (let alone safe) operation of the ride, so that I can risk both my job and my life to retrieve for you a hat that’s only there in the first place because you can’t follow directions? No, I’m sorry, I can’t do that.”
“But it’s a forty dollar hat!”
“Is that the small Frosty?”
“Yes.”
“I ordered the regular.”
“That’s what you got.”
“No, that’s small. I ordered the regular.”
“Small _is_ the regular size.”
“… Well, that’s confusing. You should have that explained on the menu board.”
(Well, maybe you should only order sizes that are actually listed on the menu board!)
…
“Does your Jr. cheeseburger deluxe come with cheese?”
(No, the word “cheese” is just a marketing gimmick. However it does come with deluxe on it.)
…
“For here or to go?”
“Yes.”
(Well, I’m glad we’ve narrowed it down to those two options. Care to pick just one?)
…
After handing the customer a tray with a Coke and a Sprite on it:
“How do I know which drink is which?”
(See the clear one? That’s the Coke. The dark one is the Sprite. I was trying to fool you with the obvious difference in colors, but you caught me!)
…
At the drivethrough:
“May I take your order, please?”
“No.”
(???)
…
“I’d like a Jr. bacon deluxe.”
“I’m sorry, we only have a Jr. bacon and a Jr. deluxe.”
“That’s what I said, a Jr. bacon deluxe.”
(Urge… to… kill… rising….!)
…
“I’d like a potato.”
“OK, what kind of potato?”
“Baked.”
(So, no raw ones for you today?)
…
“I’d like a double baconator combo.”
“Do you want that combo small, medium, or large?”
“No.”
(OK… How about “smarge” then? It’s halfway between small and large.)
…
At the drivethrough:
“Hi, I have a coupon?”
“OK, what kind of coupon?”
“For a Frosty.”
“What size, and do you want chocolate or vanilla?”
“Uh… chocolate, but I don’t know what size.”
“What size does it say on the coupon.”
“I don’t know.”
(There are words next to the picture of the Frosty. Have you tried, ya’ know, reading them?)
…
“What kind of drink is the ‘value drink’? What flavor?”
(Value flavored?)
When I was working at McDonalds I’d ask people what they want to drink with their meals. Sometimes they’d get all smart-assed and say it doesn’t matter since it’s self-serve. I then point out McDonalds has Milkshakes, Coffee, Iced Tea, Smoothies, Frappes, stuff that is NOT self serve but can be included with a meal.
People would also often say “coke”, or “a soda” or “a soft drink” (while motioning to the drink bar. Then they ask for an iced tea while I’m trying to help another customer.
Solution: Give him a Jr. Bacon, but charge him a dollar more. If he asks why it’s a dollar more, tell him it’s because it’s the Deluxe version of a Jr. Bacon, just like he requested.
Funny thing is, the current price to add 3 strips of bacon to something just went up to $1, so that is what it would cost. However, you could just order the Jr. bacon with everything, save yourself $0.50, and only get 1 less strip of bacon.
Still, I’ve done what you said and some customers were happy about it and some were not, so now I just ask them if they want a Jr. bacon with everything when they say stuff like that.
hey now you’re letting people know what the stupid tax is. That’s an employee secret. A good 60% of the people that came to steak n shake while I worked there ordered a frisco melt, but they would have each saved about 80 cents if they’d ordered a double with cheese, add swiss, lettuce, tomato, frisco sauce, on sour dough.
Menus, theyre a hell of a thing. I still remember my dad sitting down and doing the math back in the day and realizing that the combo meals at burger king were only cheaper at the small size (at least back in the mid 90s) rather than ordering the components
Heehee. I worked at McDonalds as a teenager and had a drive through conversation like this.
Me: “Welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order”
Guy: “I’m going to need a moment”
Me: “Alright, let me know when you’re ready”
(over a minute passes)
Guy (sounding annoyed): “Can I just order now?”
Me: “Uh, yes, you can”
Guy: “I’d like a quarter pounder please”
Me: “Would you like to make that a value meal?”
Guy: “…”
Me: “…Okay, so that’s a quarter pounder sandwich. Anything else?”
Guy: “What about my fries and drink?”
Me: “Oh, so you would like a meal? Alright. Would you like to make it large for only $0.40 more?”
Guy: “…”
Me: “So that’s a medium quarter pounder value meal. What would you like to drink?”
Guy: “No, not medium, LARGE!”
At this point I thought the guy was either crazy or there was something wrong with the intercom. I mentioned it to my manager, and he said this happens several times a week with this guy. One time he actually witnessed this conversation from the other side, because he was outside eating lunch at the time.
It turns out this guy didn’t understand that we couldn’t see him through the intercom. All the pauses were him nodding or shaking his head at us. People had explained this to him as well, and he still didn’t get it.
People who call their ISP for technical support almost universally think the support agent can instantly see what’s on their computer screen… or in some cases, that they can see the customer through the computer monitor.
Almost as often, their issue has nothing to do with the ISP.
I’ve had experiences like this, tho it was actually when I worked in a Toy Store.
(while stocking some new Barbies)
Customer: “Excuse me sir, could you help me find some Barbies?”
Me: (trying not to have knee jerk response) “Well, you’ve come to the right aisle, which one were you looking for?”
Customer: “You know, Barbie!”
I have many more like that, but that one always sticks with me…. between that & the people that couldn’t comprehend street dates, I had a hard time containing my “What the frak are you thinking?” response
1) Frosty’s are supposed to be chocolate. If I don’t order the abomination that is a Vanilla Frosty as “Vanilla Frosty” I am telling you I want the non-evil Frosty.
2) Why can’t I get a Biggie Frosty anymore, dammit. That’s almost a Guiness level Meal in a glass…
“I’d like a double baconator combo.”
“Do you want that combo small, medium, or large?”
“No.”
(OK… How about “smarge” then? It’s halfway between small and large.)
well for that comment I would have to say… look at the posting. a LOT of fast food places only list the combo and a price.. no comment about small/medium/large OR price difference. So you might want to look at your advertisements and menu options/pricing from an outside point of view too
“I’m sorry, we’re not open yet, sir.”
“I just want to get a cup of coffee!”
“We can’t let anyone in until a manager’s in the building, sir.”
“Just sell me a cup of coffee!”
“Sir, I don’t even have a drawer open yet. We haven’t even brewed any coffee. Just hang on and we’ll be open in 30 minutes.”
“This is terrible customer service! (flounce away in a huff)”
“(facepalm)Just two more years to that degree…two more years to that degree…”
Believe it. I had to deal with an asshole like this at my old job; he wanted to take out a phone carrier to see if it would fit his phone, but I kept telling him that if we take it out of the package, we can’t sell it. He wouldn’t listen to me, and kept getting angrier and angrier, until a manager came by to fix the problem.
Exactly. While scale is never a consistancy across the board, some dudes are smaller than others by normal character design.
I’m going to buy myself all kinds of MP Sideswipe when he hits the virtual shelves. Can’t wait. That being said, I needed to change my shorts when I saw the shots of MP Soundwave and the cassettes. OHGODYES.
I think sideswipe and Optimus should be the same size. All transformers the same size. The road will be Fuckin’ filled with trucks, semis, trailers, the oceans with yachts and cruise boats and the sky with jumbo jets and rockets.
He’s not, actually. There are three sizes of Mini-Vehicle on the cartoon. There’s the “normal” guys like Windcharger and Gears, there’s the larger Mini-Vehicles like Brawn and Huffer, and then there’s Bumblebee/Cliffjumper, who’re shorter than all of them. Powerglide’s in the larger class, so about two sizes larger than Bumblebee.
Like Willis said. Also, why are people associating size with cost? Fansproject figures are smaller than deluxe and cost 5x as much. Cost is in the details and production value, including box art, etc…
Probably because it’s kind of how food works? Well, except with food instead of plastic. More food = more money, is what I’m trying to say. Unless you’re buying bulk or family-sized or something.
This is the polar opposite of how toys generally are; they’re made in scales to fit the package.
Yeah, in diecast a B-52 has the same wingspan as a Cessna 172. But if you get both of them in 1/72 as scale models, you can make the 172 in an afternoon…and it’ll take you three weeks to assemble the B-52!
The MP toys use the show’s scale logic, in which Sideswipe (as well as the other normal Autobot cars) are about half the size of Optimus Prime. And Sideswipe was smaller than Optimus Prime because one was a car and one was a semi. Similarly, Ratchet, Ironhide, and Trailbreaker were taller than the other Autobot cars because they were vans and trucks, but not as tall as Optimus. Of course, those same van- and truck-formers were the same size in robot mode as the jets and the minicassette player.
All part of his master plan. You see he knew the Autobots would go where ever he was, so he gets to choose the battlefield. But that bungling Starscream and everyone in the faction except Megatron (who is awesome) screwed it all up.
Also Optimus Prime’s awesome is a few orders of magnitude greater than Megatron’s, so that might’ve cancelled out Meggy’s awesome.
Because it’s hard to take the villain seriously when the hero can literally step on him, crushing him into little sparking pieces of broken metal/plastic/whatever-actual-Transformers-are-supposed-to-be-made-of? In robot form?
I’m surprised you didn’t say anything about MP Soundwave and that absolutely amazing piece of engineering that is Masterpiece Laserbeak considering your unabashed love of cassetticons. Oh and Rumble/Frenzy and Ravage of course.
Fair enough. I eagerly await those myself. Didn’t stop me from pre-ordering Soundwave 5 minutes after I saw the pictures though. Never ever splurged on a Takara MP, but Soundwave convinced me to do it.
Megatron was bigger than Sea Spray. Sea Spray was a freaking LCAC. Megatron was a Walther P-38 with a scope. Now admittedly I’ve never held a Walther P-38 and an LCAC up to one another to be absolutely sure but I’m pretty sure that Walther P-38′s are at least a little bit smaller than LCACs. I could be wrong though.
But the Masterpiece toys starting with MP-9 are explicitly cartoon scale, as stated by Takara for years by now. Cartoon scale IS a scale, and MP toys are following it. And in cartoon scale, Sideswipe is half Optimus Prime’s size because he’s a car and Prime is a truck. Ethan is 100% correct.
(The masterpiece toys before MP-9 are a bunch of large guys who, with the exception of Grimlock, are all the “right” size compared to each other anyway.)
Some cybertronians have size adaption circuits. I like to believe most of them do. Otherwise Soundwave would make a piss poor Walkman, lol. Great lamp post though.
Also, who here hopes MP Soundwave can transform into his Lamp post form? (kidding)
Similarly, it is very entertaining to crush non-microcassette-player Soundwaves into something approximating a microcassette player. I doubt the feasibility of achieving this with Prime Soundwave, but Animated makes a decent one.
In other news, G1 was ruined FOREVER in 1985 because Hasbro stopped the clear 1984 faction division of “cars vs. planes and small things” by making Powerglide, a PLANE, an AUTObot. Also, “boats, radios and microscopes” automatically equal “evil”, whereas “cars that turn into giant robots” equal “good”. Read this insanity for yourself here.
Is it just that specific toy that’s the problem or size differences in general. If the complainer just wants all his transformers toys to be the same size that’s not so bad, not everyone cares about realistic size differences.
The question of scale usually pops up within specific lines. For instance when the Classics/Universe line came out a few years ago people were super happy with the scale of the first few releases, Bumblebee though a deluxe was made shorter then everyone, Prime and Megatron were Voyager class and thus a few heads taller then the rest. Then they started putting out Ultra class figures who towered over Prime and Megatron and people started complaining because it through the cartoon scales off. Those cartoon scales usually being what the bulk of the fandom use as a reference.
Maybe that guy in the comic strip can’t speak English. Like, maybe all he knows how to do is ask that one question three different ways but doesn’t understand what Ethan is saying back to him.
I like how Masterpiece is trying for scale, even though I don’t really give two craps about how accurate they are to the oldcharacter models. Plus, they’re super expensive.
Now, if they were based on Roche’s designs for IDW, I’d be all over them!
Hold on a second – which Optimus Prime is that, in that picture on the site with the thing? That don’t look like no Masterpiece Prime that *I* know of!
In the original toys, comics, and cartoon, Sideswipe was the Autobot that turned into a red Lamborghini and sometimes had a rocket launcher on his shoulder. In the Hollywood movies, he’s the silver Corvette Stingray who has wheels for feet and swords on his arms.
WHY ARE SMALLER THINGS SMALLER
WHY
JUST BECAUSE!
Im not sure when you changed your avatar again plasma but is it Soi Fon? (9/3/12)
Because SCIENCE(tm) says so. And that’s why we have to fight it, and things like FACTS and REASONING.
I can’t believe there are people like this in the world.
Further proof that natural selection isn’t working the way it should anymore.
I think the act of crying in and of itself is a pretty good example of natural selection not working
Actually, Yotomoe, Cracked did a list including the explanation of why we evolved to cry:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19224_6-wuss-behaviors-that-were-once-badass-survival-instincts_p2.html
We’re selecting for stupidity, selfishness, and contrariness.
Stupid people see no reason why they should limit their breeding. Selfish people are smart enough know why they shouldn’t overdo it, but don’t give a damn, so they have too many children. Finally contrary people won’t let anybody tell them what to do, and so reproduce irresponsibly.
So intelligent, responsible people are removing themselves from the gene pool by reproducing responsibly.
That’s not it. Watch those idiots on shows like Jackass and think to yourself… at one point they made fantastic bear bait. We just don’t need them for bait anymore yet we still think at the back of our minds, “I better keep this moron around so I have someone to trip.”
Thus the thesis of Idiocracy.
Well, that didn’t take long.
You do realize that the movie is not intended to be taken seriously? At all?
Yeah, Idiocracy has a funny premise but isn’t based on, like, science or anything. Smart people can have dumb offspring and dumb people can have smart offspring. Our collective IQ has actually risen in the past 50 years.
Our collective IQ, yes. As people like the “but why is smaller item smaller? I don’t get it!” guy above prove, we still have people that are somehow dumber than rocks, and still alive.
Just imagine how dumb those people would have been 50 years ago!
“Me… Rock… Face… why pain?”
Unfortunately, there are. If you’ve ever worked in any customer service job, you meet WAY too many of them.
“Are you open?”
“We’re closed.”
“Then I can come in!”
“We are closed.”
(Repeat ad infintitum)
“Hi!”
“Excuse me, I’m busy checking restraints and confirming dispatches.”
“I lost my hat while I was on the roller coaster.”
“You mean the one I advised you to take off and set aside?”
“It fell down into your fenced-off area, right there.”
“Oh, I see, the area I could get fired on the spot for wandering into while the ride is operating. Hey, look, it’s right next to the high-voltage equipment.”
“So you’re going to go in and get it, right?”
“Hm. Am I going to abandon my post where I am vitally important to the successful (let alone safe) operation of the ride, so that I can risk both my job and my life to retrieve for you a hat that’s only there in the first place because you can’t follow directions? No, I’m sorry, I can’t do that.”
“But it’s a forty dollar hat!”
“Is that the small Frosty?”
“Yes.”
“I ordered the regular.”
“That’s what you got.”
“No, that’s small. I ordered the regular.”
“Small _is_ the regular size.”
“… Well, that’s confusing. You should have that explained on the menu board.”
(Well, maybe you should only order sizes that are actually listed on the menu board!)
…
“Does your Jr. cheeseburger deluxe come with cheese?”
(No, the word “cheese” is just a marketing gimmick. However it does come with deluxe on it.)
…
“For here or to go?”
“Yes.”
(Well, I’m glad we’ve narrowed it down to those two options. Care to pick just one?)
…
After handing the customer a tray with a Coke and a Sprite on it:
“How do I know which drink is which?”
(See the clear one? That’s the Coke. The dark one is the Sprite. I was trying to fool you with the obvious difference in colors, but you caught me!)
…
At the drivethrough:
“May I take your order, please?”
“No.”
(???)
…
“I’d like a Jr. bacon deluxe.”
“I’m sorry, we only have a Jr. bacon and a Jr. deluxe.”
“That’s what I said, a Jr. bacon deluxe.”
(Urge… to… kill… rising….!)
…
“I’d like a potato.”
“OK, what kind of potato?”
“Baked.”
(So, no raw ones for you today?)
…
“I’d like a double baconator combo.”
“Do you want that combo small, medium, or large?”
“No.”
(OK… How about “smarge” then? It’s halfway between small and large.)
…
At the drivethrough:
“Hi, I have a coupon?”
“OK, what kind of coupon?”
“For a Frosty.”
“What size, and do you want chocolate or vanilla?”
“Uh… chocolate, but I don’t know what size.”
“What size does it say on the coupon.”
“I don’t know.”
(There are words next to the picture of the Frosty. Have you tried, ya’ know, reading them?)
…
“What kind of drink is the ‘value drink’? What flavor?”
(Value flavored?)
The sad thing is that a Jr. Bacon Deluxe sounds like it would exactly match how hungry I am right now if it existed.
When I was working at McDonalds I’d ask people what they want to drink with their meals. Sometimes they’d get all smart-assed and say it doesn’t matter since it’s self-serve. I then point out McDonalds has Milkshakes, Coffee, Iced Tea, Smoothies, Frappes, stuff that is NOT self serve but can be included with a meal.
People would also often say “coke”, or “a soda” or “a soft drink” (while motioning to the drink bar. Then they ask for an iced tea while I’m trying to help another customer.
I knew coffee could be substituted for a soda, but didn’t realize any of the others could be
Solution: Give him a Jr. Bacon, but charge him a dollar more. If he asks why it’s a dollar more, tell him it’s because it’s the Deluxe version of a Jr. Bacon, just like he requested.
Funny thing is, the current price to add 3 strips of bacon to something just went up to $1, so that is what it would cost. However, you could just order the Jr. bacon with everything, save yourself $0.50, and only get 1 less strip of bacon.
Still, I’ve done what you said and some customers were happy about it and some were not, so now I just ask them if they want a Jr. bacon with everything when they say stuff like that.
hey now you’re letting people know what the stupid tax is. That’s an employee secret. A good 60% of the people that came to steak n shake while I worked there ordered a frisco melt, but they would have each saved about 80 cents if they’d ordered a double with cheese, add swiss, lettuce, tomato, frisco sauce, on sour dough.
Menus, theyre a hell of a thing. I still remember my dad sitting down and doing the math back in the day and realizing that the combo meals at burger king were only cheaper at the small size (at least back in the mid 90s) rather than ordering the components
Heehee. I worked at McDonalds as a teenager and had a drive through conversation like this.
Me: “Welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order”
Guy: “I’m going to need a moment”
Me: “Alright, let me know when you’re ready”
(over a minute passes)
Guy (sounding annoyed): “Can I just order now?”
Me: “Uh, yes, you can”
Guy: “I’d like a quarter pounder please”
Me: “Would you like to make that a value meal?”
Guy: “…”
Me: “…Okay, so that’s a quarter pounder sandwich. Anything else?”
Guy: “What about my fries and drink?”
Me: “Oh, so you would like a meal? Alright. Would you like to make it large for only $0.40 more?”
Guy: “…”
Me: “So that’s a medium quarter pounder value meal. What would you like to drink?”
Guy: “No, not medium, LARGE!”
At this point I thought the guy was either crazy or there was something wrong with the intercom. I mentioned it to my manager, and he said this happens several times a week with this guy. One time he actually witnessed this conversation from the other side, because he was outside eating lunch at the time.
It turns out this guy didn’t understand that we couldn’t see him through the intercom. All the pauses were him nodding or shaking his head at us. People had explained this to him as well, and he still didn’t get it.
Empathy is a vastly underrated evolutionary trait.
Maybe they should have posted a sign out there. “Despite what you think, we can’t -see- you. SPEAK as a response, please.”
That wouldn’t work. Idiots never read signs, no matter how noticeable they are.
People who call their ISP for technical support almost universally think the support agent can instantly see what’s on their computer screen… or in some cases, that they can see the customer through the computer monitor.
Almost as often, their issue has nothing to do with the ISP.
I’ve had experiences like this, tho it was actually when I worked in a Toy Store.
(while stocking some new Barbies)
Customer: “Excuse me sir, could you help me find some Barbies?”
Me: (trying not to have knee jerk response) “Well, you’ve come to the right aisle, which one were you looking for?”
Customer: “You know, Barbie!”
I have many more like that, but that one always sticks with me…. between that & the people that couldn’t comprehend street dates, I had a hard time containing my “What the frak are you thinking?” response
>“What kind of drink is the ‘value drink’? What flavor?”
Some restaurants do place absurd restrictions on ostensible discounts.
I like how some of these could easily be the result of momentary confusion or distraction.
1) Frosty’s are supposed to be chocolate. If I don’t order the abomination that is a Vanilla Frosty as “Vanilla Frosty” I am telling you I want the non-evil Frosty.
2) Why can’t I get a Biggie Frosty anymore, dammit. That’s almost a Guiness level Meal in a glass…
But the Vanilla Frosty is so much BETTER than the chocolate frosty, so much so taht I don’t even capitalize the chocolate frosty!
“I’d like a double baconator combo.”
“Do you want that combo small, medium, or large?”
“No.”
(OK… How about “smarge” then? It’s halfway between small and large.)
well for that comment I would have to say… look at the posting. a LOT of fast food places only list the combo and a price.. no comment about small/medium/large OR price difference. So you might want to look at your advertisements and menu options/pricing from an outside point of view too
“I’m sorry, we’re not open yet, sir.”
“I just want to get a cup of coffee!”
“We can’t let anyone in until a manager’s in the building, sir.”
“Just sell me a cup of coffee!”
“Sir, I don’t even have a drawer open yet. We haven’t even brewed any coffee. Just hang on and we’ll be open in 30 minutes.”
“This is terrible customer service! (flounce away in a huff)”
“(facepalm)Just two more years to that degree…two more years to that degree…”
These are great! I encourage you all to submit them to, or at least visit:
notalwaysright.com
Crap, I already have TVTropes, FSTDT, and Cracked.com. Now you’ve given me ANOTHER Time Sink.
There are. Many of them shop where I work.
Believe it. I had to deal with an asshole like this at my old job; he wanted to take out a phone carrier to see if it would fit his phone, but I kept telling him that if we take it out of the package, we can’t sell it. He wouldn’t listen to me, and kept getting angrier and angrier, until a manager came by to fix the problem.
I know I’m showing my ignorance here, but what’s the acronym mean?
Good People Often Yell?
Go Poop On Yourself
Got Pictures Of Yetti
According to the magical Google-search, GPOY = Gratuitous Picture Of Yourself.
I thought it was Gophers Prefer Orphaned Youngsters.
Go Put On Yanni.
Got Penis? Oh, Yes!
Great Pizzas Omit Yeast.
Gretta Practices Origami, Y’all!
God Pisses On You.
BECAUSE HE’S A BLOODY CAR, YOU THICK MORON!
It amazes me how many people are upset about this. Takara said that from MP-9 forward the MPs will be in scale. Therefore….
Masterpiece Omega Supreme is going to rock.
That may never be realized only because they could never decide how big Omega Supreme was supposed to be.
Masterpiece Unicron might be a little difficult to get home from the store.
Hell, it might be a little difficult to fit in the store.
Exactly. While scale is never a consistancy across the board, some dudes are smaller than others by normal character design.
I’m going to buy myself all kinds of MP Sideswipe when he hits the virtual shelves. Can’t wait. That being said, I needed to change my shorts when I saw the shots of MP Soundwave and the cassettes. OHGODYES.
The good news is that MP Sideswipe may end up being cheaper than the average MP, like say Hot Rod.
I think sideswipe and Optimus should be the same size. All transformers the same size. The road will be Fuckin’ filled with trucks, semis, trailers, the oceans with yachts and cruise boats and the sky with jumbo jets and rockets.
Powerglide is the same size as Bumblebee.
He’s not, actually. There are three sizes of Mini-Vehicle on the cartoon. There’s the “normal” guys like Windcharger and Gears, there’s the larger Mini-Vehicles like Brawn and Huffer, and then there’s Bumblebee/Cliffjumper, who’re shorter than all of them. Powerglide’s in the larger class, so about two sizes larger than Bumblebee.
When… does… the hurting… stop?
When humanity gets wiped out, of course.
I heared Ultra-Car knows some nuclear launch codes
Please, just… make it stop.
Based on a true story?
I don’t think most people’s problem is that he is smaller, more that he is like, Deluxed sized and costs what $150?
Neither of these things is true.
Like Willis said. Also, why are people associating size with cost? Fansproject figures are smaller than deluxe and cost 5x as much. Cost is in the details and production value, including box art, etc…
I will never understand the way some toy collectors calculate value based on volume of plastic. It makes no sense.
Probably because it’s kind of how food works? Well, except with food instead of plastic. More food = more money, is what I’m trying to say. Unless you’re buying bulk or family-sized or something.
Okay, forget I said anything.
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11477&mode=retail
And roughly voyager sized. But Masterpiece intricate. Also, if he gets a US release, he’ll be cheaper.
Deluxed sized?
They took his size and deluxed it?
So they took the already Deluxe pricepoint Universe Sideswipe and made one at a more “deluxe” size?
Sounds okay to me.
*insert Xhibit pic* YO, DAWG…
… geable.
I’VE BEEN SPOTTED ::runs::
This is the polar opposite of how toys generally are; they’re made in scales to fit the package.
Yeah, in diecast a B-52 has the same wingspan as a Cessna 172. But if you get both of them in 1/72 as scale models, you can make the 172 in an afternoon…and it’ll take you three weeks to assemble the B-52!
Oh, if we’re using logic now, why is Megatron and Optimus Prime the same size when Optimus is a truck and Megatron is a handgun.
Mass-shifting.
The MP toys use the show’s scale logic, in which Sideswipe (as well as the other normal Autobot cars) are about half the size of Optimus Prime. And Sideswipe was smaller than Optimus Prime because one was a car and one was a semi. Similarly, Ratchet, Ironhide, and Trailbreaker were taller than the other Autobot cars because they were vans and trucks, but not as tall as Optimus. Of course, those same van- and truck-formers were the same size in robot mode as the jets and the minicassette player.
TL;DR: Cartoon-scale accuracy.
No, Willis. That’s not it.
Megatron makes himself bigger… through the sheer power of his AWESOMENESS.
That can’t be it.
Megatron once built an immobile cannon in the middle of no where on a continent with no Autobots so that he could destroy the Autobots.
He must be borrowing somebody else’s awesomeness.
But then there’s the griffon, man.
Remeber that device he had that could borrow other robots’ abilities? Well there you go. Awesomeness extracted.
If it was an AWESOME cannon, it wouldn’t have to move to destroy the Autobots, wherever they might be.
Is that like the Orbital Friendship Cannon? Because the Orbital Friendship Cannon is at least 20% cooler.
All part of his master plan. You see he knew the Autobots would go where ever he was, so he gets to choose the battlefield. But that bungling Starscream and everyone in the faction except Megatron (who is awesome) screwed it all up.
Also Optimus Prime’s awesome is a few orders of magnitude greater than Megatron’s, so that might’ve cancelled out Meggy’s awesome.
Because their robots are the same size, and Masterpiece cares more about robot scale than vehicle scale.
Because Decepticons always cheat!
Well, it’s in their name.
Because it’s hard to take the villain seriously when the hero can literally step on him, crushing him into little sparking pieces of broken metal/plastic/whatever-actual-Transformers-are-supposed-to-be-made-of? In robot form?
Fool! Megatron can be any size he wants!
Through the power of BURNING JUSTICE?
Oh, my mistake…that’s Optimus.
burning justice? I think Walgreens has a creme for that
Does it reverse the color-changes too?
Whether he’s Megatron or Galvatron, right?
LOL. This was more amusing than I thought it would be.
But the comments definitely helped.
Man, where do you hear this stuff? Online or in actual toy stores?
I’m surprised you didn’t say anything about MP Soundwave and that absolutely amazing piece of engineering that is Masterpiece Laserbeak considering your unabashed love of cassetticons. Oh and Rumble/Frenzy and Ravage of course.
When there’s good color pictures of em.
Fair enough. I eagerly await those myself. Didn’t stop me from pre-ordering Soundwave 5 minutes after I saw the pictures though. Never ever splurged on a Takara MP, but Soundwave convinced me to do it.
Laserbeak is amazing, but not for Japanese MP prices. I’ll wait for the inevitable domestic release for half as much.
Surprisingly under-awed by the photos
Now if MP Sideswipe comes in G2 colours – with deranged day-glo decals – then I will be all over that
Megatron was bigger than Sea Spray. Sea Spray was a freaking LCAC. Megatron was a Walther P-38 with a scope. Now admittedly I’ve never held a Walther P-38 and an LCAC up to one another to be absolutely sure but I’m pretty sure that Walther P-38′s are at least a little bit smaller than LCACs. I could be wrong though.
Folks never read the other comments before posting.
That and toy lines just aren’t generally made to any real scale. Even Masterpiece ones.
To put it another way, Ethan’s answer is as silly and clueless as the other guy’s objection/question.
But the Masterpiece toys starting with MP-9 are explicitly cartoon scale, as stated by Takara for years by now. Cartoon scale IS a scale, and MP toys are following it. And in cartoon scale, Sideswipe is half Optimus Prime’s size because he’s a car and Prime is a truck. Ethan is 100% correct.
(The masterpiece toys before MP-9 are a bunch of large guys who, with the exception of Grimlock, are all the “right” size compared to each other anyway.)
Some cybertronians have size adaption circuits. I like to believe most of them do. Otherwise Soundwave would make a piss poor Walkman, lol. Great lamp post though.
Also, who here hopes MP Soundwave can transform into his Lamp post form? (kidding)
Every Soundwave I ever got, I try to give him his Lamppost Alt mode. TF:Prime Soundwave makes a great Techno Gothic bat Lamppost thing.
Similarly, it is very entertaining to crush non-microcassette-player Soundwaves into something approximating a microcassette player. I doubt the feasibility of achieving this with Prime Soundwave, but Animated makes a decent one.
WFC works well. He ends up looking very close to his in-game “walk-man” mode.
IIRC, Soundwave’s Lamppost mode is basically his robot mode bent over slightly with his head tucked in and his arms held out to the side.
Master of disguise, is old Soundwave.
Optimus is bigger than Sideswipe because he is the dominant male of the Autobots.
Did you… did you… actually… have this conversation with someone?
If so… Egads.
You’d be stunned how many people are dead convinced that their ideas actually make sense.
In other news, G1 was ruined FOREVER in 1985 because Hasbro stopped the clear 1984 faction division of “cars vs. planes and small things” by making Powerglide, a PLANE, an AUTObot. Also, “boats, radios and microscopes” automatically equal “evil”, whereas “cars that turn into giant robots” equal “good”. Read this insanity for yourself here.
Oh wow. Dude at the top of page 3:
Thundercracker (G1 Waspinator, cough)
I don’t even.
Wait, boats?
Just show people like this that picture:
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/b/b5/Prowlg1crisisofcommand.jpg
Sideswipe is obviously waaaay to big! XD.
And yes, I’m aware that is Prowl, but both are around the same size.
http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/1/1a/Sideswipejetpack.jpg
A bit of a funny angle, but there we are. Maybe a head shorter…maybe. Not nearly as short as the masterpiece version….
1) That particular image layers Jazz and Optimus Prime’s cells in the wrong order. It happens. This is Jazz’s proper scale to Prime: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:MTMTE1-JazzProwlPrimeTrailbreaker.jpg
2) The official scale guide used for the cartoon: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Tfcartoonscaleguideic1.jpg
I think it’s freaking awesome that MP Sideswipe can fit into the trailer of MP Optimus (ver 2.0)!
MP Sideswipe only LOOKS smaller than MP Optimus Prime because he’s farther away.
Yeah! That’s it. Perspective.
I like to think that this guy is trying to start a philosophical debate and is simply frustrated by Ethan’s stubborn pedantry.
ಠ_ಠ
Is it just that specific toy that’s the problem or size differences in general. If the complainer just wants all his transformers toys to be the same size that’s not so bad, not everyone cares about realistic size differences.
The question of scale usually pops up within specific lines. For instance when the Classics/Universe line came out a few years ago people were super happy with the scale of the first few releases, Bumblebee though a deluxe was made shorter then everyone, Prime and Megatron were Voyager class and thus a few heads taller then the rest. Then they started putting out Ultra class figures who towered over Prime and Megatron and people started complaining because it through the cartoon scales off. Those cartoon scales usually being what the bulk of the fandom use as a reference.
OOOOOoohhh…..I see I see……and here I thought GI Joe collectors were anal
Scale…Transformers…yeah, those two words don’t really go together.
Guys! I just thought of something. What if Donna is in future-Semme with Walky jr?
Why are the last ones always in the end?
Maybe that guy in the comic strip can’t speak English. Like, maybe all he knows how to do is ask that one question three different ways but doesn’t understand what Ethan is saying back to him.
I like how Masterpiece is trying for scale, even though I don’t really give two craps about how accurate they are to the oldcharacter models. Plus, they’re super expensive.
Now, if they were based on Roche’s designs for IDW, I’d be all over them!
Hold on a second – which Optimus Prime is that, in that picture on the site with the thing? That don’t look like no Masterpiece Prime that *I* know of!
That’s MP-10 Convoy v.2, the new Masterpiece Prime in the new scale.
Please, tell me this isn’t a real conversation that you’ve had with someone before.
I am sad to admit….I dont understand this comic….
Who is Sideswipe? all I know are Optimus, Megatron, Star Scream, and Bumble bee
In the original toys, comics, and cartoon, Sideswipe was the Autobot that turned into a red Lamborghini and sometimes had a rocket launcher on his shoulder. In the Hollywood movies, he’s the silver Corvette Stingray who has wheels for feet and swords on his arms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideswipe_%28Transformers%29
This strip is made even funnier by the fact that I’ve seen people complain that Sideswipe’s Lambo mode is too big compared to Optimus’ semi mode.