Between you and me, now that this is all over, I’m looking forward to some new Batman films that take themselves a tiny bit less seriously.
Also, check out this Kickstarter from the creators of Xevoz!:
Between you and me, now that this is all over, I’m looking forward to some new Batman films that take themselves a tiny bit less seriously.
Also, check out this Kickstarter from the creators of Xevoz!:
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Bringing back the gardening bit, eh?
Missed opening but plan on seeing movie soon.
Wait, how did Batman fail at gardening? He’s the best at everything!
When you spend your nights fighting crime and your days resting up and healing from a night of fighting crime, you might forget to water your plants or feed your sidekicks.
apparently he failed at 4 other things. Clearly he is now trying to become the best at failing
He didn’t fail! All those panels depict a total success!
A) The invention of edible smoke bombs, so that he doesn’t have to make extra room on his utility belt for snacks!
B) Testing out the new Bat-Trowel, which is guaranteed to kill plants immediately, and is a vital tool for fighting Poison Ivy.
C) Booby trapped ice cream cone. Mr. Freeze will never see it coming!
D) Invisible cereal. Batman is a master of invisibility, and so is his breakfast of choice. Finding the prize inside is also a worthy test of his detective skills.
Nolan’s Batman actually isn’t good at much.
Everyone else in Nolan’s trilogy is better at being Batman than Batman is. The Joker always had an escape plan. Bane plans everything far in advance and is always a step ahead. Catwoman can get out of any trap. Random detective guy can figure out who all of the masked people are with some solid research and planning. Fox can develop new toys in his spare time without any immediate need for them. Even Gordon showed the ability to escape from a life-threatening situation.
Nolan’s Batman, on the other hand, failed at almost all of these. By DKR he’s just relying on beating people up because he’s better than them. He’s arrogant and overconfident and constantly screws up because he doesn’t have a plan B if punching someone doesn’t work.
I enjoyed the movies as character studies and interesting psychological thrillers, but in the end they weren’t really Batman movies.
Yeah, part of what makes Batman Batman is that he’s a ridiculous Mary Sue. If you make him a real person, he’s not really Batman anymore.
See also: Daniel Craig’s James Bond.
Though admittedly, he does do some actual investigation/detective work in TDKR before he decides he wants to go wail on Bane.
*spoilers* And he totally has l33t computer skills, given that he expanded Lucius’ sonar phone project in the Dark Knight into a wide area spy network. Plus he fixed the AI on the Bat in the Dark Knight Rises.
Yeah. Agree. And it’s especially jarring going from watching a marathon of Justice League/JLU episodes to listening to Bale’s growly voice.
He does display at least one “Where the hell did he learn to do that?” skill in the ending to the latest movie. Unfortunately, I can’t describe it without giving away a massive spoiler to the ending, but you know what I’m talking about.
He also pulls off that impossible cell phone thing in the second movie. He does have Sue-ish random skills in the Nolan movies.
That’s true. Wah wah waaaaah~
He is the best at ridiculous voices.
Bat guano apparently doesn’t make the best fertilizer.
It does make excellent explosives, though.
Not shown: losing the remote, having trouble finding his left shoe, going into the bathroom without toilet paper.
The return of gardening Batman!
Alfred, you lazy bastard. You’re the one who’s supposed to buy cereal!
I want to see one where Alfred is saying the line while standing next to Batman’s bed, who is lying next to a nude and disappointed Catwoman.
“This usually works…”
LOL! Yes, I’d like that!
Screw Batman. (Not literally).
But thanks for the point to the Hero Project on Kickstarter. I’ve always loved world mythology and it looks like they’re doing really cool stuff both in concept and execution.
I fear you may have broken my heart a little though, as they’re nowhere near funded with only 17 days left. Wish I had more to give towards making this sort of project happen. Reposted it where I could in the hopes Of giving them even a tiny boost.
Oh, and yeah, Batman films that kids can enjoy, that are actually fun, would be nice to see again.
But… but we’re supposed to get weeping Batman with some unsubtle reference to Aurora. The use of Batman to be FUNNY is TOO SOON, WILLIS!
(Seriously, though, thank you for not being ham-handed)
Anything that can make my brain associate “Batman” with “good, happy things” again is most welcome!
Yeah, I’m a tad freaked at the idea of seeing any movie in a theatre again anytime soon and I’m aware that logically, it’s a silly overreaction, but try telling that to the reptillian hindbrain that’s wimpering off in the corner and wants someone to say something and make it all better.
Yes, I’m aware that it’s kinda pathetic.
But thank you for Funny!Batman. It actually does help.
Heck, my illogical impulses go exactly the other way…
Just what are the chances of something like this happening at two theaters any time soon?
(Yes, I know probability doesn’t work that way, but I’m a tabletop gamer. Let me have my dice superstitions.)
And I supose there’s going to be some scary levels of security crackdown on theatres after this too.
Geez, can you imagine the freakouts over people going to opening night movies in costume now?
Aw man. As a kid who wore a trenchcoat around the time of Columbine, yeah, I really can.
Ugh. Yes, I remember the free-for-all on the geeky and “weird” kids following Columbine. It’s always delightful to go from getting picked on by the princesses and the jocks to being treated like a terrorist by the school’s administration.
Made me glad to have graduated high school very shortly beforehand, really.
Same here. Thank god I was in college at the time. Just getting flack from random jerks on the street was bad enough.
(And yes, I’m old enough to think of college kids as kids. Now git off mah lawn!)
When I went to see Batman in the theater by my house, the only thing (I noticed) was they had a sign on the door saying for the safety blah blah blah… no backpacks.
Speaking of ‘less seriously’, I never saw you make a strip for Brave and the Bold.
Understandable, as it would be redundant. When the guys running the show dream of doing a tribute to Superdickery, nothing else can truly compare.
Yeah, B:BATB is a Shortpacked! strip already.
There’s also this one, but it’s more about a toy based on B:BATB.
I’m impressed there was never one about Kickpuncher Joker. There was a blog post, but I kinda had my fingers crossed for a comic strip.
I WILL SMASH YOUR STARLESS FACES is a regular giggle-inducer around my household.
By “less seriously” do you mean acrobatically wringing out laundry?
“I’m aquaman…I me-”
“Why do we fall?”
That’s when Alfred would tell him, “Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ho. I love to swim. When you want to swim you want to swim.”
I agree, Willis. This trilogy is great and all, but I was watching some 60s Batman last week and now I’m drunk and thinking about how awesome it would be if I could fanangle a budget and a cast and redo the whole thing in movie format and today’s movie technology.
The last attempt at campy Batman gave us Batman and Robin. We shall never speak of it again.
If I’d have been in charge of that thing, George Clooney’s Bat-nipples would have been squirt guns that shot fluorescent bat-milk and Alicia Silverstone would have been in a skirt and 9 inch platform stilettos and never more than few steps from a bronze pole. And there would have been 40% more close-ups on Batman and Robin’s butts and bat-crotches.
Wait…isn’t that how it went already?
There can be a campy Batman. Somebody call Patrick Warburton!
If Patrick Warburton is to play anyone campy… it’s gotta be Captain Marvel!
Oh god, he’s got the jaw for it.
He already played The Tick. That show sucked, but not because of him (it sucked because it was trying too hard to be Sienfeld with superheroes).
I would actually go for a camp Batman with him as the Bat.
But I wanna speak about it!
I loved Arnold as Freeze with all the puns that came with it!
I loved how it approached Bruce and Alfred’s relationship!
Sure, there was a lot of bad in that movie… but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have some high points!
I think what you meant to say is that there were a lot of points that may have been enjoyable if you were high.
I seem to remember there being a lot of points…um, on costumes…that shouldn’t be…points.
Anyway, yes, would be much better high. But still…even if everything else was fixed, their treatment of Bane was simply unforgivable.
What do you mean? Don’t you remember the classic moment in Knightfall when Bane raised Batman over his head and shouted, “Monkey, work!”
They got his strength right (though, he was NEVER a weakling, even without the Venom), but Bane was so deadly because he was both freakishly strong AND freakishly smart.
Without the smart, he may as well have just been a giant ape in a Mexican wrestler outfit. Which is basically what we got in Batman and Robin.
“Bomb!”
Brave and the Bold, aka the greatest cartoon of the past decade, has words for you.
and the first of those words is “OUTRAGEOUS!”
OLD CHUM!
I think he means more like Avengers rather than more like Batman and Robin.
I saw that show for the first time in-context a week ago. I always thought they were cheesy by accident but it’s absolutely self-aware.
Narrarator: “Have Batman and Robin finally met their match? Will the Joker’s utility belt prove to be their undoing?”
Cut to a reporter: “These are the questions Gotham is asking tonight. Have Batman and Robin finally met their match? Will the Joker’s utility belt prove to be their undoing? Earlier today I asked Commisioner Gordon these questions.”
Cut to the police station: “Commisioner, have Batman and Robin finally met their match?” and so on.
A lot of folks forget that it was always meant to be a spoof and that nobody anticipated that it would be as popular as it ended up being.
Re: The Hero Project. Holy crap! I am all over that Horus, and most, if not all the others, depending on how much they’ll be charging.
My god, the Hero Project- amazing! I was astounded, looking over the whole thing, but profoundly sad when I went to donate and saw how much more it had to go in so little time. Here’s hoping they make it happen somehow, even if Kickstarter funding fails.
!!!!!WILLIS-INSERTED SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!
WELL MAYBE IF YOU’D LEARNED IT THE FIRST FRICKIN’ TIME!!
Uuuugggghhh, I’m sorry, but twenty minutes in, and I loathed Nolan’s Bruce Wayne. I can’t even call that guy Batman. Batman is a man who never gives up, who takes his every failure and pain and uses it to motivate himself to something better. On some level, he does what he does to balm his own pain, but mostly, he does it because he is a HERO and wants to help people. His pain gives him drive. Batman is like, 90% drive.
This guy. This pathetic sad sack. Sat around his giant empty mansion. FOR EIGHT FREAKING YEARS. And did nothing. And helped no one. Not as a protector (Batman) or as a benefactor (Bruce Wayne). He just wandered in a cocoon of his own misery for nearly a decade with a case of the sads.
And Alfred is apparently a huge enabler. At what point to you bring up the thing that might hurt Bruce but give him closure? Maybe after a year of mourning? Surely after two? Possibly after the point that you realize he has literally given up on life and on helping anyone or even himself? Nah, I think I’ll just sit on that bit of information for eight years, because sure, whatever.
The rest of the movie had its good qualities and its bad ones, but at the end of the day, I didn’t have much fun, because I could not give two craps about what happened to Bruce Wayne. He was a lousy hero.
Er, but yes, all that vitriol aside, the comic amuses me to no end. Especially seeing how Batman’s gardening has come along!
And yeah, I definitely agree with the “taking themselves less seriously.” I think we’re starting to confuse “serious” with “good.” Avengers didn’t take itself seriously at all*, and it delivered a seriously fun movie that was a joy to watch all three times I saw it.
*(but they did, clearly, set out to make the best movie they could. So they took the effort seriously.)
He yo. Next time you wanna bitch about a movie that’s like a week or three old, some spoiler warning would be nice for those of us netizens who haven’t seen it yet.
Seconded.
He did try helping people as a benefactor, but it was largely a failure. Given the end of the Dark Knight, Batman’s hiatus made sense. And personally, I find heroes more interesting when they have failures and flaws to overcome. In the end, the need to be Batman was one of them – which I thought to be a rather interesting point.
No, he sat in his mansion and left the managing of Wayne Co’s funds and charities to other people, and was surprised when he was told “Yeah, they haven’t been funding that.” “Well, why not?” “Because the company’s not making much money these days, whoops.” He didn’t even know.
Batman’s hiatus only makes a wee bit of sense, because framing him for Dent’s murder never made sense. There’s a crazy killer clown and oodles of other thugs who want Harvey Dent dead. Why blame it on the Batman. Moreover, now Gotham is at a “peace time” but for the eight years previous? Batman couldn’t have been helping just a bit? I mean, really, since when has Batman ever cared about being police sanctioned? Heck, he’s supposed to lurk in the shadows, why do the police even need to see him doing what he’s doing?
I can understand a hero needing to overcome their flaws. That’s one of the things I love about Wally West. But he just sat there for years. One year of mourning, yeah, I’ll take it, that’s rough. But no, he just…he just honestly didn’t care until it came home to hit him where he lived, again.
Thanks for adding the spoiler tag, Willis. I didn’t think the eight years was a spoiler, sorry for blurting it out like that.
Except they DID establish that he HAD been working on something at Wayne Enterprises that had been eating up all those funds, and for justifiable reasons.
(Reiterating: SPOILER WARNING hard here)
Personally I figure this is how it went down.
Writer 1: “We should have this movie start with him retired for a little while, because he was so successful with his ‘taking on the guilt’ thing in the first movie.”
Writer 2: “Sounds good.”
…
Writer 2: “Hey, we should have Talia come back and be the woman behind the man, as a surprise twist and callback to Begins.”
Writer 1: “Cool!”
…
Writer 1: “We should have all this totally be about a nuke that Talia talked Bruce into building, so we can have a nuke going off that was his fault.”
Writer 2: “Even better!”
…
Writer 2: “Wait a second – how long does it take to invent a new radiation free portable nuclear-reactor-bomb, anyway? Because he can’t have started it until after Begins because of the Talia angle.”
Writer 1: “Uh, I guess we can’t say only one year for that, can we.”
Writer 2: “So we have to lose the retirement angle, or the Talia angle.”
Writer 1: “And throw out the entire script so far.”
Writer 2: “…”
Writer 1: “…maybe nobody’ll notice?”
Writer 2: “No, the internet exists now. Plus, comic book fans. We’d never be able to get away with that.”
Writer 1: “Well, maybe we can sort of admit that it would take a long time to make the nuke, and hope people swallow it anyway.”
Writer 2: “Are you serious?”
Writer 1: “…Okay, which half of the script do you want to rewrite?”
Writer 2: “…”
Writer 2: “Well, I’m sure nobody’ll mind *too* much. I mean, we have callbacks galore and a nuke going off and everything.”
Writer 1: “Sounds good! Moving hastily along…”
It really came off more as something that he was only vaguely aware of. If Wayne Enterprises hadn’t been funding the boy’s home for the past few years, then that means it had been failing for at least that long, and Bruce wasn’t even aware. It seemed like he just sort of said, “yeah, do that thing,” but didn’t actually pay attention, and wasn’t even remotely hands on about it at all. Leaving all the company business to Lucius when he’s running around as Batman is one thing. When he is literally doing nothing else with his time? Yeah, no.
But he DID help as a benefactor, until he used up all of Wayne Enterprises profits.
He stopped being Batman, because he wasn’t needed anymore. That was the entire point of taking the fall for Dent’s murders. If everyone thought Dent died a hero, then the streets of Gotham would stay clean. and they did.
To the point where its two biggest crime fighters, Batman, and James Gordon, because jokes. They weren’t needed anymore.
Eight years later, the streets were clean. What, Batman couldn’t have been some help in those eight years? As far as I remember, Batman’s stance has always been: “As long as there is crime, I will fight it.”
Bruce helped as a benefactor, but in a very “hand it off to someone else” way. He didn’t bother paying attention to his own company, trying to generate profits that could be used to help people. He really did just kind of carelessly run it into the ground while throwing money in the general direction of help. If he’s not working as Batman, the least he can do is pay attention to what his company is doing. He didn’t even know that they’d stopped funding the boys home years ago. He just decided to wallow in his own misery and lost all drive.
His specific goal in these films has been to help get rid of the mob from Gotham. To wipe out organized crime. That was his goal, and he accomplished it at the end of the Dark Knight.
I rather think it helps it seem more realistic that instead of spending those 8 years beating up jaywalkers, he just left.
He had the cops after him for the 5 murders, and the streets were free of organized crime (as well as just about all big crime period). What was left was for the cops. He was trying to show Gotham that the city didn’t belong to the corrupt.
Meaning he was there to help the city back to its former glory and then let the people take it from there.
Kinda late, but couldn’t stop myself…
In addition to what John said, he tried to build that reactor, which was supposed to be a safe, non-polluent energy source, but turned out to actually be quite dangerous. So, being no longer necessary as Batman, and having failed his big energy-problem-solver, he just gave his money to charity and went home.
Personally, I love how Willis can switch Batman styles at the drop of a hat so you automatically know which version he’s referencing.
Well, if I ever see him at a convention, I will ask him to make a Batmen sketch, and all of them will face right. Muhahahaha.
I’m happy to see I’m not alone at having that opinion.
A-men to that.
Oh, jeez. I’ve never really cared about toys, but I want to bankrupt myself for that Hero project. A Rama action figure, seriously? Plus Cuchulainn down the pike? Goddamn, why is it only 12% funded?
Though, they are taking some pretty serious artistic liberties with Rama. I mean, wasn’t the original just a giant cylinder flying through space?
…what?
Glad I’m not alone in wanting something a little more extravagant out of my Batman.
As for the Hero Project… well, it’s a good idea on paper. Action figures based on heroes of myth, culture and legend? I really wanna say “SIGN ME UP”. But the 8″ scale is a big turnoff. 8″ toys take up a lot of room! 8″ toys cost a lot! If it was somewhere between 3.5″-5″ I’d be all over it.
I can’t even remember the last time a toyline in the 8″ scale was successful…
I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I just have to say that there is plenty of room in my heart for multiple interpretations of the Dark Knight.
Except for Schumacher Batman. Schumacher Batman can go to nippled neon hell.
Confidentially, I’d probably rather watch Batman Forever than Batman Begins again, though by the slimmest margin. And those Burton films can go to hell.
I like the first Batman movie, but honestly Batman Returns is the one movie in the original series I’m least likely to rewatch.
That being said… The original series makes a lot more logical progression, IMO. First Batman movie: Batman is in it almost purely for revenge. He’s ruthless and has no issues with killing. He eventually kills his parents’ murderer. Batman Returns: Killing Napier has done nothing to ease his pain. He becomes even more vicious in his dispatching of criminals. He meets Selina Kyle. In the process, Selina ends up dying. Batman Forever: Having finally seen how empty all the killing is, Batman gives it up. He even delivers a lecture to his new ward about it, telling him that killing his family’s murderer will do nothing to ease his own pain, and it’s better ultimately to deliver them to justice.
And with Batman & Robin, you have Batman finally realizing that he doesn’t just have crimefighting partners and butlers.. but a family. He realizes how much like a father Alfred has been to him, comes to consider Dick a brother and even welcomes Barbara into the “family”.
When you take all four movies in, it becomes a study of how the events and people in Batman’s life eventually ease the pain of losing his parents and letting him out of the darkness he’d been in since he was eight.
This I’ve never understood…why the hate of Burton’s Batman? The first one especially was my favorite…why is it so loathed by some?
The common complaints I hear:
“Batman kills”
“Michael Keaton is too short”
“Too focused on Joker”
“Jack Nicholson is just ‘playing himself’.”
Don’t forget:
“Ridiculous rubber suit.”
“Unnecessarily shoehorning Joker into Batman’s origin.”
“Batman kills some more.”
Seriously? What’s wrong with the first Burton Batman movie? I remember it being all kind of awesome.
As for Batman Forever vs. Batman Begins… I’m kind of shocked to find myself sort of agreeing there. Batman Begins was definitely the superior movie, but it might be slightly less rewatchable than the B-movie gooniness of Batman Forever. I can’t really put my finger on why…
http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-12/08-this-is-so-babies/raisearms/
There’s also not a single likable character in either of the two movies, other than Max Shreck on the technicality that he’s Christopher Walken. Everyone in those movies I want to see die in a fire. They’re jerks.
At the risk of sounding picky, Max Shreck was actually in Batman Returns, not Batman Forever.
I know. Valdrax was asking me why I didn’t like the Burton films. I said I liked Batman Forever earlier in this discussion thread.
Oh…guess I really should pay better attention to where the conversation is at, huh?
Even Bob? (j/k)
I liked Keaton’s Batman. He had the “playboy” side down pretty well. And while, yes, Jack Nicholson was playing the same character he always plays, I’ve always liked Nicholson’s Joker. (It probably helps that it was my first Nicholson movie.) And how can anyone not like Michael Gough as Alfred?
But, hey, tastes differ; it’s not like you can be “wrong.” I was just surprised because you’re the first person I’ve encountered in our rough age group who likes Batman but didn’t like Burton’s first Batman movie.
(Batman Returns was just awful, though. Even Walken couldn’t save it in my mind.)
I never bought Keaton as a playboy. Primarily because I’ve never understood how any woman looked at him and thought, “Yup, I’ll sleep with that tonight.” Keaton’s just…too weird. I mean, Batman should be weird, but Bruce Wayne is supposed to be normal, yet sexy.
I liked Begins version of Bruce Wayne best out of all of them.
But you can tally me up as someone else from our age group (I assume) who’s not a huge fan of the Burton films. They’re alright, and I can appreciate their pop culture status, and sometimes I’m in the mood for that heavy-but-corny atmosphere, but they’re just…I dunno.
Every non-comic incarnation of Batman pales in comparison to TAS anyway. (Maybe not BatB.)
I don’t know about Willis, but I know I loved the Burton movies at the time. That is to say, I liked them when the only other Batman I had seen was either Adam West or Superfriends. After a few years of reading Batman books and of watching TAS, trying to re-watch the 89 movie, it was just plain painful how wrong Burton got just about everything.
Which is funny because after the first Burton Batman was released, DC changed things around in the comics to make them look more like the movie. They even had an explanation for why suddenly the Gotham skyline looked like it consisted entirely of gothic cathedrals.
rather than every other building having a giant-scale replica of some common household object on the roof, as was once the style.
Hm. I keep forgetting that Batman Forever was also Schumacher. It’s been long enough since I’ve seen either Forver or Begins, so I can’t necessarily fairly compare the two, but given the choice, I’ll always take the third option and pop in Mask of the Phantasm, or if the kids are already in bed, the unedited cut of Return of the Joker.
You break my heart, Willis! I LOVE the Burton films!
Really? I always liked the first Burton Batman.
Batman Returns, though, was a ridiculous clusterfuck. It had the style but it made no sense. I mean, Schreck building a giant capacitor so he can hold Gotham City’s electricity hostage? He owns the power company! He could just freakin’ turn it off! (In fact, Enron showed that the latter plan was actually feasible in the real world)
Batman Forever was a mess too (they managed to totally waste Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face). Pretty good soundtrack tho.
Whoa!
Whoa. Whoa.
Forever over Begins? Burton films can go to hell?
You heard me.
I remember Batman Forever as my least favorite Batman film and rather boring overall.
hehehe, despite this, i still cant wait to watch!! offtopic: that Hero Project is actually a really great idea! Reminds me of Black & White (the pc game)
Ya’know, when Willis is dead in the future, his gravestone will say “He liked to draw Batman gardening”
“And flying butts pooping on people.”
Seriously, I think they’re about tied, not counting sketches for individuals.
YAY! A BATMAN JOKE!!!
Don’t push it. After the rude and/or vile comments you made the other day, your ability to read and post to this site is hanging by a thread.
I must have missed something. O_O
Xevoz WERE really cool. They were unfortunately very scarce in my neck of the woods, I only managed to buy one set, but at least it was a two-pack. This little hardware store in the basement of one of the two indoor malls in Charlottetown (Yeah, we’re kind of a joke as a city) has this little toy section that is mostly filled with crap but occasionally gets real gems. Like Xevoz!
If memory serves me, and it may not, Xevoz were somehow related to Stikfas, right? I’ve got one Stikfas set, “girl and dragon”, and it’s pretty cool. I should dig both it and the Xevoz set out and have them fight XD
I have not seen TDKR still… so I’m going to comment on The Hero Project! I’m pretty passionate about it. I think it’s an amazing idea and they look very cool. I am backing it at the $500 level because I want that Alabaster Rama figure.
It seems like it’s getting some pretty good traction after a couple weeks of slow going. Go internets go!
wow! that’s really generous of you! It doesnt look like the project will succeed. It’s such a great idea tho. I even went to 4chan after many years of not going there to spread the love!
And oh man, I never actually seen middle age ladies wear veils for gardening. its kinda almost kinky
Frickin’ virus warnings!
I have yet to encounter or hear of a second person who has this problem on my site. Someone feel free to prove me wrong if this is the case, but I can’t actually fix a virus problem in which I don’t have something tangible to fix. Until there’s a second or third person or more, and they tell me more about the problem than “I get virus warnings on your site,” I don’t have the information necessary to do anything about it.
Hrmn. Did some research, it appears I may have a javascript bug somewhere in my system. Many apologies.
I see that Rama figure and all I can think of is the shitstorm DC unleashed when they introduced Rama in Wonder Woman. Making superhero characters out of deities from the Greek and Norse pantheons is one thing, but when you get into religions that a whole lot of people actually practice, you can be walking into a minefield.
i had to google this! That was hilarious. Well yeah, of course they were pissed! He fell in love with a completely different person and changed his canon story to mingle with others!
It’ll be fine tho. The figure’s story is a much more authentic transition with no plans of banning the heroes together into a South Park justice league or something.
Aww, poor Batman. Something about his face and eyes in the gardening panel makes it look like he’s really sad about that dead plant.