UH OH IT’S ON D=
This shit just got real.
First Panel Mike looks a bit less angry than usual. Is it just me?
Probably just caught off-guard/surprised by Robin yelling at him.
It’s more of a WHAT THE FUCK NOW look
It’s like she’s trying to make up for being an unlikeable character during her own relationship story arc.
You’re right, except for the fact that she’s not an unlikable character. You’re confusing her with Ethan.
she cheated on her lover, got overbearing when she moved on, then tried to seduce her back for the most petty of reasons.
i’d say the likeability was hurt a bit.
Actually Leslie “let robin go” before she ‘cheated’ on her.
Which more or less means Robin couldn’t cheat on Leslie because she already got dumped.
The fact she got physical so quickly after a breakup can be considered morally questionable yes but not nearly as much as you are trying to make out.
i thought they broke up after robin slept with that one guy & recorded it, but i could have my timeline mixed up…
for the record, i’m not going “burn the witch” or anything, robin’s one of my favorite characters.
You guys are looking way to far into this…
Do you remember the arguments that were had in the comments section during that arc, and the Malaya and Leslie beginnings? The fans of this comic (including myself) overanalyze EVERY RELATIONSHIP.
I completely disagree. Ethan is for the most part a joy compared to Robin most of the time. Mike works a certain way and you didn’t see Amber (who loves Mike for who he is) going to him for comfort because she knows that. Amber even understood this about Mike during the whole proposal fiasco while everyone else was going crazy. Mike shouldn’t change who he is for any reason! I hate Robin all the more for trying to get him to change.
Evryone should try to better themselves.
He has a flaw and he knows about it, (He even recognizes that it is a flaw!) so he should be working on changing that about himself WITHOUT Robin getting on his case. People are meant to change.
well that may be true, but mike has been like this for how long now? it’s simply who he is now, and very few people can radically change their personality easily, and fewer are willing to as it would mean letting go of all you find familiar about yourself.
if you care about someone and know they’re hurting then you shouldn’t have to go to them to get comfort they should come to you and offer it
The major flaw with this is that Mike is going to be a parent.
Mike, the guy who had the running joke of kicking random people in the nuts, physically or metaphorically, just for what might be amusement but is really hard to tell with Mike.
Mike kinda takes the term abusive, then kicked it in the head for being too wimpy.
Yes he hasn’t really been a dick to Amber that often since they started dating and the like but kids follow examples, what kinda parent is one that pretty much tells the kid that being a bully for the sake of bullying will get you on top?
And robin is the one with the problem for not wanting this?
You’re both confusing your dislike for a character to mean that the character must be unlikable. They aren’t unlikable you just don’t like them, there’s a difference.
I also find it funny that some of the people who dislike Robin list her being selfish as part of the reason. Yet here she is not being selfish and trying to do something for her friend with no benefit for her and some use it to hate her even more. *shrugs*
Personally, I don’t dislike any of the main cast.
No, actually Ethan’s unlikability is a scientific fact. Labratory experiments show that Robin scores a solid 0.65 Hannelores, and is only thought as unlikable due to both Amber and Leslie’s higher scores, which make her look unlikable in comparison. Ethan, however is just shy of 0.22 Hannelores (mostly due to his obsessive-compulsive behavior) and is only perceived as rating higher due to his status as the strip’s main character, and comparitively dismal scores of Ninja Rick, Faz, Galasso, Malaya, and Ultracar.
This comment wins.
Hang on. You’re measuring likability in Hannelores, and Ethan scores low because he’s obsessive-compulsive?
No, I mean that’s the only reason he scores as high as he does. The rest of his character (the aimless doormat who fails at stand-up) barely raises his score above a flat zero. The only thing that keeps him from dropping into the negatives with Faz and Mike is that Ethan is not actively malevolent or destrcutive.
Hannelore’s OCD is factored as a secondary characteristic when measuring likability, as it doesn’t kick in all the time and is largely harmless when it does; default HECS (Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham Standard) baseline scores are based on Hannelore’s general day-to-day personality. She’s also aware and in relative control of her OCD. For example, when she had an anxiety attack over the fact that she hadn’t had an anxiety attack all day, she scored approximately 1.23 Hannelores. Her OCD falls under known Adorably Awkward Modifier criteria. Even counting her condition as a direct likability modifier only lowers her by .0458 HECS due to the relatively harmless sociological nature of her OCD: she doesn’t get mad at anyone else for her condition, and she’s gone against her OCD on numerous occasions for the sake of others.
Ethan’s OCD, on the other hand, broke up his relationship because he couldn’t manage some manner of control over it for long. Granted, there are other factors, but despite the fact that his obsessive purchasing ruined an otherwise decent relationship, he’s done nothing to curb it (and if memory serves, even resents his ex for not trying harder to accept that habit– essentially, the “clearly I was in the right” argument). As a result, his score is significantly effected by it.
This is the best kind of math ever.
as far as I’m concerned Drew broke up that relationship
Am I the only one here reminded of when she brought Joe and his internet crush together near the end of It’s Walky! ?
While Robin was seriously crushing on Joe, don’t forget.
End of the day, Robin’s oblivious, not really selfish.
I’m going to go and crazy here when I say that I don’t think thee are all that many unlikeable characters in Shortpacked except maybe Malaya.
Yeah each character makes mistakes and screws up from time to time but that’s only because they’re human it doesn’t make them unlikeable monsters when human traites make them mess up in they’re lives.
I mean seriously every other arc there’s a comment about what a bitch Robin is for making a mistake with Leslie admititally a big one but the thing is Robin has a very simplistic world view so of course she wouldn’t have thought there would have been anegative outcome from seducing Leslie.
Personally the fact these characters have flaw’s makes them all the more interesting to me.
Exactly! Just because someone personally dislikes a character doesn’t mean everyone does or the character is unlikeable. That’s what makes them human, the fact you can hate dislike some of them and someone else likes them.
I don’t know about you but I don’t like everyone I meet.
I find I like almost all of the characters in SP! because of (rather than despite) their flaws.
The only exception is that Willis guy who shows up in the b/w strips. God he’s annoying. Why doesn’t the cartoonist retcon him or something?
OH MY GAWD, I KNOW.
Pretty much everyone in this comic is a horrible person, but I still LIKE all of them.
Could Mike have *gasp* vulnerabilities?!
That’s not what your mom said last night.
Looks like Mike ALLLLLLLLLLLMOST gave a fuck.
Yeah, but then he charged your mom a nickel like they had agreed.
Fight! Fight! Fight!
Could also lead to Epic Hate Sex as well.
She did pull the drama tag after all.
Robin is deadly serious, must be a sign of the apocalypse.
SWEAR TO ME!
O SNAP. =O
GO FUCK YOURSELF
POP!hahahahaohhhhI’m a dick.
Man, you must eat some seriously hardcore breakfast cereal.
snap crackle fuck, part of a balanced breakfast!
with free toy inside!
(not for people under age of 18)
The toy is from the new movie Porno: the Billionth!
Why does it feel like Mike is going to burst to tears?
Didn’t he burst to tears in the “Because I love her!” scene?
I guess Robin has that power over him.
But he was wasted at the time.
She has a point. She can kick his arse.
And she can kick it at SUPER-SPEED.
I love Robin in that last panel.
I know. I mean.. damn… Shit just got serious
Robin… <3 I love her right now.
You tell ‘em Robin
Listen Mike -you’re fun to watch and all – but ya just ain’t father material… perhaps a yet needs to be added there?
Question is – how will Mike react?
On A random side note: I miss Mr. Rogers…
I think Robin might be Mike’s kryptonite.
This leaves me wondering who’d win in a fight–Mike or Robin? Mike’s seemingly got strength above a normal abductee level but Robin’s got super-speed above baseline abductee powers. Also, she’s powerful enough to be the Squad 128 replacement for Mike. Either way, it would be a hell of a fight.
Anyways, I’m always excited for Mike/Amber arcs!
Mike would win. Or, well, he might not win, per se, but he’d definitely make Robin lose. She could beat his face in, and he’d work it so that it cost her something she valued far more than the brief satisfaction of kicking his ass.
Mike isn’t some sort of magical dark wizard. He has a good track record of pulling dick moves out of his ass, but let’s not forget that when Walky beat him down, he failed to extract any pound of flesh from him. Robin is faster than the speed of sound, and at least as strong as Mike. Remember that in the Fans crossover, Mike is classified as being about normal with everyone else. He’s tougher and stronger like all abductees, but he isn’t anywhere near Joyce or Walky’s level. Robin would tear him apart before he even knew what was happening.
I always pictured Robin as a Fragile Speedster myself. one good hit from Mike would prolly deck her, as not only would his fist carry momentum, but her super-speeding also would add force to the impact – and Robin would be KO’d.
The story where she personally handed a beatdown to every member of the Axis of Something would suggest Robin is anything but fragile.
Problem is, they’re just regular humans.
Mike isn’t, he’s strong enough to be tossing around concrete or corpses, as if it’s nothing.
And while I do think that Robin might have the edge in a fight, it’s not going to be a cakewalk by any means.
Here’s the thing though–Jim also had super-speed.
Remember Jim? Whilst brainwashed he span around like the Tasmanian devil and JASON, not an abductee but a normal dude, took him out in two moves, bare-handed.
Assuming Robin and Jim have similar speed, Mike could probably take Robin.
…Lightning Bruiser? *shrug*
Ironically from that exact link you just sent, I got this… *clears his throat for the paste*
•Webcomic example: Robin, from It’s Walky! and Shortpacked!, could probably create a sonic boom if she felt like it. She’s only physically fragile compared to super-strong people like Sal or Beef, though, but her main vulnerability is her emotional and mental stability… Hence, still fragile, just in a different way.
Sal is martian super powered and Beef is insanely strong even without the buffs (and his weight would make him a freaking wall.) So yeah. She has the same abilities as Mike, only she’s also developed super speed from her extremely high metabolic rate.
So yeah. She can beat Mike if she really wants to, and the best Mike could do is take shots at her relationship with Leslie which would probably just make her hit harder.
there ya have it, lol.
All he’d need to do that is stand there and take the beating. Then Amber would see Robin beating up her boyfriend, and…oops, yet another leg on Robin’s social table takes a powder.
Man, I don’t even care who wins, I just wanna see this fight. I know a superfight is really out of SP!s norm, but still. Wouldn’t it be freaking awesome?
There could be a Secret Wars style tournament!
So we don’t want to piss off Robin
Hmmm, I guess Robin *IS* the only one who might be able to take Mike, but now I wonder who would win in a fight?
It’s entirely possible that we’re about to find out.
On a secondary note, this is the second time Mr. Rogers has popped up for me today
That’s an unsettling name to give your John Thomas.
I am still on the opinion that it was better that Mike was not near at the moment of snkrs death, but on the other hand I am with Robin at the “he has to try harder”… mmm
Not actually being present could count as trying harder.
…I think I’m in love. Can I be Robin’s new lesbian?
Well Robin might have super speed, but Mike still has super strength. And he can revive himself.
Strength is fairly useless if you can’t lay a hand on your opponent.
It is when your super-fast opponent is an easily-distracted imbecile. He just needs to take out some string or something shiny and she’ll stand there to get decked.
“A strong sword arm wins battles, but a keen mind wins wars”
-Wuunferth the Unliving
“Don’t take strategic advice from someone whose epithet is ‘the Unliving.’” –Me
Easily distracted isn’t really a weakness for a speedster. If they want to hurt you, you get hurt before you get a chance to react. Robin could put her fist through him before he could so much as think of how to distract her, let alkone actually shift her attention elsewhere.
Destroy the area around you or cause a seismic quake with super strength when speedster is near, enemy trips on rubble or gets imbalanced, grab them when they stumble, *SLAM* their face down to the earth… repeat last part until foe is unconscious or dead.
Simple as cake…
P.S.: JT’s method works, too…
And it would be funnier, which earns more style points.
Yeah, but when that super fast person is threatening to beat you, they’re not gonna run away from you, because then that would be counterproductive.
Robin’s seemed to be pretty clearly the more effective fighter in the past. Don’t forget that she has super strength too… Mike is pretty meh as far as abductee powers go.
I’d give Robin the edge in actual combat. She’s too fast to hit. All it’d take is one nanosecond, and she’d have Faz’s head up Mike’s ass.
Still, Mike would probably win long term. He’d just fine some way to make “Faz’s head is now in my ass” a condition of winning.
faz is happy that he was included in this activity.
Parallel to the Clash, the only comment that matters
I was always under the impression that Mike’s strength and toughness wasn’t anything special by abductee standards. He was definitely portrayed as being physically weaker than Sal, Walky, Beef and the other characters whose “thing” was strength. If he did have an extra abductee power, it was was either being a super-asshole, or somehow linked to his resurrection.
He’s considerably tougher than a normal human, yeah, but so is Robin (physically, not emotionally). And then Robin also has super-speed.
Also, even if Mike does have super-regeneration or something as his extra superpower, then that just means Robin can hurt him more without killing him.
Mike’s abductee power has always been super corpse-throwing powers.
I thought his abductee power was that he was such an asshole even death wouldn’t take him, thus making him immortal.
I kinda have to agree with Robin on this one. I know Mike’s an asshole and all, but he definitely should try harder to be more comforting to Amber when she needs it. After all, like Robin said, he IS going to be a husband and a father soon.
Is Robin beginning to think she can control other people again?
I need to add:
I agree with Robin on this, but does she REALLY think she can exert any real control over Mike… or anybody else?
Especially since we’ve already seen Mike take a huge physical beating before. LIke it would matter if Robin punched him this time. He can emotionally destroy anybody.
Robin would beat Mike so hard. he really doesn’t have a chance. For those who don’t remember he’s rocking average abductee speed while she is so fast she was once able to change everyone’s clothing in less then a second.
Honestly I’d give her the advantage against any abductee except Beef(nigh-industructable), Sal(cause she’s scary) and Walky(for his super secret ultra-tactical mind) after all what the hecks good about super strength against her?
She’s dumb and easily distracted. However, you’re right that she’d win because everyone has a hard-on for overpowered chicks nowadays. Whedon syndrome.
You’re forgetting Joyce, who has gone toe to toe with Sal and won.
It’s called: “Beware the Nice Ones” for a reason.
But isn’t Mike the one with super strength?
Everybody has superstrength. Its not impressive.
Most abductees have some level of super strength, Robin included. Robin and Mike’s levels of physical strength are on the low end, though.
Then what is Mike’s specific abductee power?
The Black Speech Bubble of Death… its ON NOW!
Ditz has a point. When you become a daddy, it’s no longer about knowing your limitations.
It’s now about exceeding them.
But did it really cost 6 million dollars?
Well, we were able to cut corners on “better”, since that’s much more subjective. That reduced costs by about 15%.
Damn things just went up a notch! I thought she would let it go but I guess the kid gloves are finally off and she is officially pissed. Maybe this has to do with her own past and possibly her childhood I mean what do we know of her parents?
That her father slept around
Buttmunch? I haven’t heard that one since Beavis and Butt-head. I guess since it’s on again it’s an insult she could pick to use. Oddly enough I agree with Mike. Consoling Amber is not his strength and yet I’d still like to see Amber kick his ass if only for all the past crap he’s pulled.
Good idea. It certainly worked really well last time she took that approach. Not sure if I’m prepared to see that face again though.
Robin says things like “fo’ rizzle” and “this is so babies”. Integrating a pop-culture ref, no matter how outdated, is almost a step up.
Officially loving this.
Aaaaaand this is why I love Robin
Mike is a chatty lil’ fellow these days.
Well at least Mike is self aware enough to realize that he would only make things worse. That’s gotta count for something.
Perhaps not making fun of her and Snkrs is his way of trying harder?
Maybe, but not harder enough. Robin thinks he could do better, and I figure she’s right.
If Mike wants to comfort Amber all he has to do is chug some beers. Right?
Well, at least now we know who shouted ‘Try Harder’ to the Hasbro panel years ago when they were asked about getting then then-still-delayed Seacons reissue out.
But she’s got a point.
Oh god. Shit’s about to go down.
shit just got REAL
Shit just got real…
Well, *I* sure got harder. In my pants. For Robin.
That’s… that’s a first.
Hit him! Hiiiit hiiiiiiiiiim..
Robin, Robin. I love the sentiment behind your actions, like always, but sweet crap one of these days you’re gonna have to learn to think things through.
You were completely fine with the fact that Mike wasn’t gonna be a part of the comforting process when you agreed to take part in it. You’re all shocked to find him in his own home, not participating? It somehow makes a difference whether he’s not participating from ten feet away or from down the street?
It was implicit in your being asked to do this that Mike wasn’t doing it. That’s why you were needed in the first place. Now you’re bashing heads with the dude, which we’ve never seen to do anything but cause him to dig his feet in the ground. If you felt that this was something Mike should have been doing then the best thing you could have done is simply refrain from stepping into this.
Amber’s a big girl. She wasn’t gonna fall apart because you weren’t there when her hamster died, and maybe it would have forced them to tackle something that may or may not be a problem in their relationship. If anything though, much like when you acted in Leslie’s defense, your actions right now seem to speak much more poorly of your own esteem for Amber than they do for anything else.
Also, if I might add, if who can beat up who enters into how a dispute is settled you’re doing it wrong. Which is besides the point, since Mike has never really shied away from a beating to begin with. I’m pretty sure he enjoys it. A wonderful part of the fucked up psyche that is Mike is that he really is asking for a world of hurt and you’d just be giving him what he wants.
Not like I can’t appreciate how well-meaning you are here. You’ve got a friend who’s looking more vulnerable than ever and this is when her now-fiance chooses to remind everyone he’s an enormous jackass. Your heart’s in the right place, it’s just that your hands and head aren’t. Gotta start coordinating that shit.
I wonder if she actually could kick his ass.
well, I’m pretty sure she’s just as tough as him, and she’s faster. So I think so.
Robin, you’re single, bi, and Mike’s parents seem rather open-minded about sex.
Tell him if he doesn’t try harder you’ll fuck his mom.
She’s not bi, she’s straight with an exception.
Anyone who doesn’t understand how super-speed can be used effectively in a fight, even against a more powerful opponent, should watch the JLU episode “Divided We Fall.”
Or learn even the most basic of high school physics.
I agree with the general sentiment, but don’t think Robin has quite the degree of speed required to pull off the maneuver you’re referencing. For that matter she could never maintain that kind of speed long enough to pull it off without the aid of an excessive sugar booster, which for her has some pretty severe side effects. The flash she is not.
For sure though. Even if she didn’t actually have strength and durability on par with Mike’s own, speed can trump strength if the speedster knows what they’re doing. So… you know. If Robin hadn’t pretty much been rendered incapable of coherent thought through the same alien experiments that granted her powers in the first place that would certainly be something.
…yeah. Probably a good thing she’s got that strength and durability. Not exactly a shining beacon for speedsters to aspire to is she?
Thing is, the whole point of Wally’s scene in “Divided We Fall” was that he quit screwing around for once and really, really focused. Robin is another speedster who’s distractable and scatterbrained, but she too can focus when it counts– can even be brilliant, when she really wants to. And she’s not at Wally’s level, but Mike isn’t at Brainiac’s or Superman’s either.
I’d say it basically depends on how much focus Robin brings, and how much long-term strategy Mike brings, to the event. Mike could take eighty punches just to get Amber’s sympathy and instead start convincing her that he really is too twisted to be parents with her. Or Mike could point behind Robin and say, “Look! S’mores!”, making her head swivel, and then put her through a wall, denying all knowledge later.
Definitely. Also, in addition to all that, probably depends on exactly when the fight ends. If it ends with the physical confrontation, that’s one thing, but if they continue to go at eachother afterwards I see that as where Mike gains the advantage, on account of how he’s not bound by Robin’s basic sense of decency.
Doctor House, when Cuddy started drawing out a conflict longer than she could manage (tried to hit him where it hurts by screwing with his Vicodin).
“I know when my Vicodin isn’t Vicodin. Do you know when your birth control pills aren’t birth control pills?”
And if that doesn’t work, Try Hard, With a Vengeance. Still not pulling it off? Live Free or Try Hard!
Threats aside, I feel Robin’s point is valid. Yes, it’s a stupid hamster. What happens when Amber is upset because the baby is sick and she doesn’t know what to do? What happens when the child is hurting or sad? Somebody needs to step up, and Mike’s not the kind of man to do it without hurting someone.
This is why I think Mike and Amber won’t make good parents, at least not together. Amber by herself, maybe. But Mike is just going to fuck everything up, and think it’s funny.
Solution: Keep Mike drunk all the time after the birth. Sure, it didn’t work out last time, but I doubt the Britjas will be coming after Amber.
Except Dina’s death isn’t the reason keeping Mike drunk didn’t work. It’s because Mike eventually forced himself to vomit and Dina eventually realized it was a really shitty thing to do.
ALIEN ABDUCTEE FIGHT!!!!
GO ROBIN!!! Woot girl!!
I’m not gonna harp on the Robin-Leslie thing any more unless absolutely necessary, but I think it’s pretty relevant here, actually.
Robin seems to waffle between giddiness at Amber and Mike’s impending nuptials (in both the proposal strips, she smiles so hard it looks like her face might split) and rage at Mike for failing to measure up. Now, sure, Amber is one of her best friends, and Mike’s an ass– and by the way, I’m still not quite sold on the concept that Mike and Amber actually “work” as a functional couple, just because they’re both “broken” in interesting ways. It feels to me like Amber’s settling, at least right now.
Still, that situation isn’t new. So why does Robin have a new attitude about it? Is it the engagement that’s the new element here?
Or is it that selfish, hurtful, relationship-destroying behavior is kind of a sore point for Robin– and since she can’t think of any way to fix her own, she’s doing everything in her power to correct Mike’s, before it’s too late?
perhaps, perhaps, or maybe it has to do with how her father was and maybe sees something in him that reminds her of him and trying to fix it. Or perhaps I’m thinking robin can be that deep.
Same difference, really. Robin pretty much admitted that her own cheating reminded her of her father’s.
My guess is that Robin thought Mike and Amber wouldn’t last long term.
But her new attitude is mot likely due to the fact that Amber is pregnant now. And Mike is going to be a dad. I feel that he does need to try a bit harder and Mike not even showing any signs of concern or even attempting to comfort Amber on Snkrs death most likely pushed her over the edge.
I keep getting the feeling I’m rambling. Am I rambling? :/
I like how Mike can have different expressions, meaning different emotions… but all of them involve some variant on scowling.
I do not think I have seen Robin be this serious before.
Calling it right now, this is going to climax in an epic superpowered fight between Robin and Mike as Amber is giving birth.
…damn. I am truly impressed. That was some epic calling-him-out-on-his-shit right there.
Come on people, it’s an Amber storyline, of course everything is going to work out
So, I just finished up to this point without reading anything of the prequels. It was amazing.
Since I haven’t read any of the companion webcomics, can someone tell my why everyone keeps throwing the phrase “alien abductee” around for these characters?
In It’s Walky, Robin and Mike worked for SEMME, a government organisation dedicated to fighting aliens. The Aliens (thats the name of the alien species, no joke) abducted kids and gave them superpowers, as well as the ability to control Alien Tech in order to take over the world by controlling the abductees. SEMME employed the abductees to use against the aliens.
Robin and Mike were members of Squad 128, who the strip focuses on. Hence why Robin has superspeed (she’s a sugar fueled speedster) and Mike fights a giant frosted honey bun in New York.
Do or Do not. Ther is no try!!
Anybody else get the thought of “Try Harder” as a meme? Seriously that could work in so many ways with comedic outcomes.
Mommy… Robin is scaring me.
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