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Shame, Part 2

by David Willis on July 18, 2011 at 12:01 am
  • 03 - Fishin' Chicks

└ Tags: dan didio, ethan

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  1. Jen Aside
    Jen Aside
    July 18, 2011 at 12:02 am | # | Reply

    WOO KLEENEX!

    OR GENERIC EQUIVALENT THEREOF!

    • Zap Rowsdower
      Zap Rowsdower
      July 18, 2011 at 12:48 am | # | Reply

      Pretty sure the generic is also “kleenex”, the word has become common enough in usage that they probably have lost the copyright.

      Or at least they should.

      • Derik
        Derik
        July 18, 2011 at 4:05 am | # | Reply

        You mean trademark.

        • Felix Kütt
          Felix Kütt
          December 22, 2012 at 3:18 pm | # | Reply

          yes. and yes, they really should.

      • Lynceus
        Lynceus
        July 18, 2011 at 11:19 am | # | Reply

        Psht. Copyright/trademark law that follows common sense? Over Disney’s dead body! Plus 70-120 years. Until Disney the corporation extends it again.

        *Ba-dum-pish*

      • Pat
        Pat
        July 18, 2011 at 11:53 am | # | Reply

        So if your product is successful and popular enough, you lose the right to make it?
        Yeah, that does make sense.

        Also, “tissues”.

        • Robert
          Robert
          July 18, 2011 at 4:02 pm | # | Reply

          you can grow too successful and lose the naming rights because it has become a generic term for the product. You can (under dutch law) stop this from happening by writing angry letters at people who keep using your TM as a generic term (they don’t even have to respond, just by sending these letters you prove that your are protecting your TM).

        • Sparks
          Sparks
          July 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm | # | Reply

          This is actually why Xerox really does not like people using their term as a generic verb meaning ‘to copy.’ They have a whole page about this somewhere on their website, or they did about two years ago.

        • Timelost
          Timelost
          July 19, 2011 at 10:46 pm | # | Reply

          Gesundheit, have a Kleenex.

      • Twysted
        Twysted
        July 19, 2011 at 3:04 pm | # | Reply

        Actually the only thing you have to do to maintain a trademark is actively use your trademark, which Kleenex does every time they put their name out there. That’s what the ® behind their name means. The fact that everyone associates tissues with the word Kleenex is actually beneficial to them, and I doubt very seriously they would challenge its common use among the “little people” as it gives them hardcore recognition. When you go shopping for “kleenex” you tend to pick up Kleenex® because of said commonality between the use of kleenex to describe all tissues.

        • David Willis
          David Willis
          July 19, 2011 at 7:08 pm | # | Reply

          You should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genericized_trademark

          Why? Because you’re totally wrong. Once a trademark becomes “genericized,” and, for example, people refer to all tissues as “kleenex,” Kleenex can lose the exclusive rights to their own name. In this scenario, other companies can call their tissue products “kleenex.” There would be Acme kleenex and Johnson & Johnson kleenex and Nintendo kleenex and McDonald’s kleenex And I would like to see how you could spin that as beneficial to Kleenex the brand, which is suddenly just one of a crowd of people selling product named kleenex.

          When you go to a store, do you make sure you buy products which include the B.F. Goodrich Zipper, or do you not even know that “Zipper” is a genericized trademark for “clasp locker”? The “Zipper” trademark was coined by B.F. Goodrich exclusively for their products, but once it became genericized it sure ain’t doing them any good now.

          (On a related note, this is why Transformers packaging claims their toys “convert,” rather than “transform.” They don’t want “Transformers” to become a genericized term for all transforming robots, allowing for folks like Bandai and Mattel to begin selling “Transformers.”)

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            July 19, 2011 at 8:20 pm | # | Reply

            There seems to be one exception thou; google.

            When people say they are going to google something, they will use Google to do the search. As far as I am aware, people don’t say they will google something and then use Yahoo!, Ask or some other search engine, do they?

            • Orkinman
              Orkinman
              July 20, 2011 at 12:20 am | # | Reply

              That’s not really an exception. You have to go to a specific place to use google and it’s right in the name. Googling is not a generic term for searching on the internet, it’s what you call it when you use google. I doubt most people are really aware that there are more search engines than just google.

          • Narf
            Narf
            March 9, 2013 at 1:39 pm | # | Reply

            “genericized” is a far better way to say “eponymous” than “eponymous” is, in my humble opinion :D

  2. Azumango
    Azumango
    July 18, 2011 at 12:04 am | # | Reply

    Ew.

    • David Herbert
      David Herbert
      July 18, 2011 at 2:47 am | # | Reply

      Homophobe.

      • Theplanetsaturn
        Theplanetsaturn
        July 18, 2011 at 3:07 am | # | Reply

        So being grossed out by masturbation humor is homophobic now? Really?

        • Wazza
          Wazza
          July 18, 2011 at 3:46 am | # | Reply

          well, masturbation is someone touching the genitals of a person of the same gender…

          • Heavensrun
            Heavensrun
            July 18, 2011 at 4:18 am | # | Reply

            Masturbation is manual stimulation of the genitals. It doesn’t matter if it’s yourself, someone of the same gender, or someone of the opposite gender.

            • Despite Rage
              Despite Rage
              July 18, 2011 at 6:16 pm | # | Reply

              Matters to me. It’s the difference between a hobby and a really good date.

              Oh, you meant for the definition…

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        July 18, 2011 at 6:13 am | # | Reply

        So autosexual = homosexual/lesbian now?

        • Aizat
          Aizat
          July 18, 2011 at 10:56 am | # | Reply

          That depends on your cars gender.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            July 19, 2011 at 8:27 pm | # | Reply

            I know I used autosexual in refernce to Transformers before but in this case, I mean autosexual as in someone who ‘loves’ themselves.

            It could explain why so many religions are against masturbation thou, if they see it as a form of homosexuality.

        • torchsong
          torchsong
          July 18, 2011 at 11:18 am | # | Reply

          Starfire’s boobs and Roy’s ballcap aside, this is still one of the titles I’m looking forward to seeing in this relaunch. Now if it turns out to be just boobs and ballcaps I won’t get it past the first issue, but I do like Rocafort’s artwork, so hopefully this’ll be the start of him doing a lot more work at DC.

          Blackhawks still looks like the best new release – GI Joe comes to DC! I’m surprised the Shortpacked crew isn’t all up in arms about THAT happening.

        • Despite Rage
          Despite Rage
          July 18, 2011 at 6:18 pm | # | Reply

          It all depends on what you’re picturing in your mind.

          Hm… Does an autosexual picture himself/herself?

        • Arkadi
          Arkadi
          July 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm | # | Reply

          That’s the argument the Religion teacher at my old school used, trying to convince the boys to stop jerking off. Not that it worked XD

    • Rasputin Varez
      Rasputin Varez
      July 19, 2011 at 4:08 am | # | Reply

      don’t like the idea of a gay man masturbating, or have a problem with masturbation in general?

      either way, you can go fuck yourself

      • Theplanetsaturn
        Theplanetsaturn
        July 19, 2011 at 5:27 am | # | Reply

        Yeah, a simple “ew” to masturbation humor really warrants your vehement response.

        That was sarcasm, by the way.

        • gwalla
          gwalla
          July 19, 2011 at 5:11 pm | # | Reply

          Somebody has to stand up for the wankers!

      • jimfromtx
        jimfromtx
        July 19, 2011 at 1:38 pm | # | Reply

        There’s a certain irony in this response…

  3. Ryan
    Ryan
    July 18, 2011 at 12:04 am | # | Reply

    More like Box O’ Tissues!

  4. Lokitsu
    Lokitsu
    July 18, 2011 at 12:05 am | # | Reply

    Screw the cap, did they give Roy back his frikkin’ ARM?

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      July 18, 2011 at 12:07 am | # | Reply

      I want them to give him back his @#$% daughter.

      Seriously, her death was one of the most upsetting things I’ve ever read in a comic. And in a damn lousy story, at that.

      • Queen Anthai
        Queen Anthai
        July 18, 2011 at 1:00 am | # | Reply

        This. So much this.

        • Kensou
          Kensou
          July 18, 2011 at 1:20 am | # | Reply

          It’s DC divorcing Donna Troy and then killing her ex-husband and son all over again. Such stupidity in the name of drama and some misguided attempt to keep them from aging too much.

          • Undrave
            Undrave
            July 18, 2011 at 1:53 am | # | Reply

            God damnit comics -.-

          • timemonkey
            timemonkey
            July 18, 2011 at 8:30 am | # | Reply

            Wasn’t her husband that creepy guy that was a stand in for one of the writers?

      • MM
        MM
        July 18, 2011 at 1:16 am | # | Reply

        Amen.

      • HMRC4EVR
        HMRC4EVR
        July 18, 2011 at 4:19 am | # | Reply

        I’m behind this 100% and I’d bet Linkara is as well. You can feel the hate the man has for the decision, and rightly so.

        DC’s got a lot to apolgize for over the past year or so, and Lian’s death is at the top of the list for me. I was sure she was the person the White Lantern was going to chose to ressurect to be it’s guardian, but they went with-well, I won’t spoil that here.

        (eyes the unnecessary DC reboot that’s taking away Stephaine Brown’s wonderful run on Batgirl and adds one more to the list)

      • turkishproverb
        turkishproverb
        July 18, 2011 at 5:59 pm | # | Reply

        agreed.

  5. Andrew Colunga
    Andrew Colunga
    July 18, 2011 at 12:07 am | # | Reply

    “When the time is right… don’t be afraid to use it.”

  6. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    July 18, 2011 at 12:11 am | # | Reply

    Are the tissues a reference to wanking or am I missing the joke here?

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      July 18, 2011 at 12:19 am | # | Reply

      Maybe it is a reference to wanking.

      • Sephiroth144
        Sephiroth144
        July 18, 2011 at 2:44 am | # | Reply

        Given the last comic, I kinda think it is a wanking reference….

    • Gambit508
      Gambit508
      July 18, 2011 at 1:56 am | # | Reply

      Nah, he just has a hat fetish

  7. Beehive Radio
    Beehive Radio
    July 18, 2011 at 12:30 am | # | Reply

    if only Didio was as obliging and sympathetic to the needs of his REAL WORLD FANS!!
    :(

  8. Laura
    Laura
    July 18, 2011 at 12:31 am | # | Reply

    Yeah…yeah it is.

    …and yeah, cute-Roy is enough to make me ignore the boobs of boob-death and check out at least an issue.

  9. palaeomerus
    palaeomerus
    July 18, 2011 at 12:53 am | # | Reply

    What I want to know is will future Roy harper action figures come with replaceable “strung out head” and a dead cat?

    There needs to be a super hero team made up of characters that got horrible raw deals from really bad bad storylines that pretty much ruined them.

    Hal Jordan
    Roy Harper
    Cassandra Cain
    Golden Eagle
    Jean Paul Valley
    Raven

    • Crumplepunch
      Crumplepunch
      July 18, 2011 at 1:32 am | # | Reply

      No such list could be complete without Donna Troy and Cassie Sandsmark.

      • palaeomerus
        palaeomerus
        July 18, 2011 at 2:43 am | # | Reply

        Superboy Prime, Alexander Luthor, Pantha, Elongated Man, Blue Beetle 2, and Captain Atom should join too.

        S’gonna be a REALLY big team.

        • Undrave
          Undrave
          July 18, 2011 at 4:02 am | # | Reply

          And that’s jut the DC team, imagine the eventual Marvel response. Spider-man’s wallet must be BURSTING with membership card by now, he’ll have to make room for this one.

    • AdamYJ
      AdamYJ
      July 18, 2011 at 6:41 am | # | Reply

      Don’t forget Ryan Choi.

      • Anon
        Anon
        July 18, 2011 at 5:41 pm | # | Reply

        And Conner “Can no longer shoot an arrow” Hawke!

  10. Robert
    Robert
    July 18, 2011 at 1:22 am | # | Reply

    Doesnt help that when I read Didio’s name I pronounce it “Dildo”…

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      July 18, 2011 at 2:17 am | # | Reply

      Glad I wasn’t the only one doing that.

    • Captain Rufus
      Captain Rufus
      July 18, 2011 at 3:55 am | # | Reply

      You can tell which is which since one puts a smile on people’s faces and the other just causes grimaces and pain with no viable reason to exist in polite society.

      • Kavonde
        Kavonde
        July 19, 2011 at 12:05 am | # | Reply

        Maybe you should consider using a smaller dildo, man.

        • Robert
          Robert
          July 19, 2011 at 1:59 pm | # | Reply

          Let me guess, Dan Didio is responsible for invoking the later of the two responses…

  11. Rob
    Rob
    July 18, 2011 at 1:34 am | # | Reply

    I’m tryin to be positive about the roy getting his arm back. but then again I get upset with the Cry for Justice storyline and what happened to the Green Arrow cast.

    • HMRC4EVR
      HMRC4EVR
      July 18, 2011 at 4:24 am | # | Reply

      The ONLY good thing about the DC Reboot is it made the decision to drop Green Arrow a lot easier. I’d been with the title since Quiver started and it really had been good for a long time, then around the *$($ in Cry for Justice really tore the book apart for no real reason just for ‘drama’.

      I’d call BS, but that’s like saying ‘oh hey, water is wet’. Kinda pointing out the obvious.

      It’s ‘Graduation Day’ all over again, with GA instead of Young Justice.

      • Beehive Radio
        Beehive Radio
        July 18, 2011 at 5:48 am | # | Reply

        Oh, don’t get me started on Graduation Day…
        Empress, Where ARE you?!!
        … oh, wait… you’re a Black character, so they not only have to totally screw you over, then FORGET you, but, in the FEW appearances you’ve had AFTER that, they have to “accidentally” color you as a White Girl in every scene you’re actually IN… not to mention the horrible fake Rasta accent they gave you when you WERE a featured character… nYeesh!!

        • Doctor Who
          Doctor Who
          July 18, 2011 at 8:01 am | # | Reply

          Y’know, even after all these years I still look at Graduation Day as the precise moment things started to go wrong at DC.

          Don’t get me wrong, there have been plenty of fantastic stories since then, but that was the first in the line of “Big Dramatic Changes” that slowly sapped the fun from the universe.

          Which is ironic because the current bosses are all about “The Silver Age was so kewl!!!!!”, and there was no series that better encapsulated its silly spirit than Young Justice.

          Wow, that was almost a decade ago and I’m still bitching. I’ve officially become a bitter old man who thinks everything was better in his day. Get off my lawn!

          • tremor3258
            tremor3258
            July 18, 2011 at 3:54 pm | # | Reply

            Someday, historians may mark it like Gwen Stacey’s death marks the end of the Silver Age.

            I’m pretty ‘get off my lawn’ on Graduation Day too, it started the slow collapse of me buying issues regularly from DC, I can’t trust them to not make a likable character and destroy it as part of a bizarre attempt at getting the book to match a cartoon, except not.

  12. Andre
    Andre
    July 18, 2011 at 2:57 am | # | Reply

    Jason Todd’s penis!

    • Doctor Who
      Doctor Who
      July 18, 2011 at 8:48 am | # | Reply

      Things That Ethan Dreams About.
      Things That The Joker Blew Up.
      Things That Mike Has Kicked.
      Things That Have Their Own Memorials In The Batcave.

      Am I close?

      • Andre
        Andre
        July 18, 2011 at 3:43 pm | # | Reply

        warm.
        The answer is “surprising things on the cover of that comic”.

  13. gangler
    gangler
    July 18, 2011 at 7:30 am | # | Reply

    It’s true. The baseball cap really does look good on him. Also, with Robin and Red Robin I’m a fan of the plumage.

    Kid Flash’s design in general is fantastic, but particularly enjoying the red eyes. Do we know if that’s still Bart?

  14. PaulW
    PaulW
    July 18, 2011 at 7:54 am | # | Reply

    What did I say about using handcloths instead? They’re re-usable and ecofriendly!!!! Sheesh. Wasting all that damn Kleenex(tm).

  15. Wix
    Wix
    July 18, 2011 at 8:40 am | # | Reply

    Ah, it’s when you realize that what’s going on that you find he really was shameless there.

  16. izzatrix
    izzatrix
    July 18, 2011 at 9:26 am | # | Reply

    Not ever going to even try reading DC again after what they did to Gehenna. I should have stopped after what they did to Sue Dibney. Not reading DC not only saves me the cost of the comics but it saves me the cost of gallons and gallons of brain bleach.

    • palaeomerus
      palaeomerus
      July 18, 2011 at 9:50 pm | # | Reply

      Seriously, who the hell thinks having Nora raped and years later killed by a jealous friend is a good idea for a Thin Man detective story? So why do the same thing to the comic book equivalent?

      If DC doesn’t give a rat’s ass about their characters and sees them as fire place logs to be burned to make the book “hot” for two weeks of sales then why should readers care about ‘em?

      Marvel is just as bad. Oh look. Tony Stark is drunk and betraying everyone again. Oh look there goes Hank Pym being a contemptible psycho. Ms. Marvel got impregnated by a dude from anotehr diemnsion and then he seduced her with his mind powers and then then she came back and lost her powers and became and amnesiac so parasitic aliens gave her new cosmic energy powers by playing with her DNA for fun. Spider-Man has totem powers and a vampire ate his eye then he ate the vampire and sold out to evil Tony Stark and then got crippled and sold his marriage to Satan so he could be a hip 30 year old bachelor with a bad job and his dead friends back again and so Aunt may would live. No wait. It was all skrulls or space phantoms or the Ring Master’s circus or some intern who is working on his breakout screenplay 85% of the time accidently hit the “suckage” knob on the script writing machine for the Marvle Universe with his elbow.

      Meanwhile somehow the Incredible Spider-Man cartoon, and the Avengers TV show turns out pretty good by just ignoring most of that stuff.
      Meanwhile JLA/JLU felt more like the JLA than anything DC can squeeze out of it’s editorial/star-creator/fan favorite penciller/powerhouse-team corn hole.

      • Dr. Z
        Dr. Z
        July 19, 2011 at 10:41 am | # | Reply

        Lol!

        Comedy gold. Thank you for making my day.

    • palaeomerus
      palaeomerus
      July 18, 2011 at 9:56 pm | # | Reply

      Oh yeah who thought Green Arrow attacking Black Canary on their wedding night even though he was really “Everyman, a trash character from One Year Later” was a good idea?

      Who thought that bringing in a version of Marvin and Wendy into the Teen Titans and then having them mauled by an evil Wonder-Dog in an issue with a funny cover that promised LAFFS was good writing?

      Who thinks that having an underage new Hawk Girl successor character being chased by a love sick Hawkman who STILL has his own severe multiple origin problems was awesome?

      Bleh.

  17. arjay2813
    arjay2813
    July 18, 2011 at 10:28 am | # | Reply

    looking at the 2nd issue comics for all the new DC52′s, i think they look better than the 1st issues. those are the eye-catching darker and slutt– i mean darker and “edgier” issues, these will be the good ones. exceptions of like Mr. Terrific 1&2, Justice League Dark 1&2, etc. also, not sure how i feel about Red Lantern #2 though, since it seems to insinuate a little girl joining, and that is a little messed up

  18. begbert2
    begbert2
    July 18, 2011 at 10:40 am | # | Reply

    Didio panel 3: ‘Um, what the hell?’
    Didio panel 4: ‘Eh, what the hell.’

  19. S5
    S5
    July 18, 2011 at 2:05 pm | # | Reply

    Didio reminds me of Mr. Spacely from the Jetsons. Maybe that’s why the DC Relaunch reminds me of one of his crazy schemes.

  20. Jim Harbor
    Jim Harbor
    July 18, 2011 at 6:22 pm | # | Reply

    Dan diidio looks like a dog from the Mutts strip in teh last panel. So KAWAII!!!!

    ^ ^
    V

  21. luke
    luke
    July 18, 2011 at 7:30 pm | # | Reply

    anyone got a picture of this super cute hat?

    • palaeomerus
      palaeomerus
      July 19, 2011 at 6:38 am | # | Reply

      http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/9/98536/1903303-rhoodo_cv2_asldfjahslkjhfu9_super.jpg

  22. Thrudd
    Thrudd
    July 19, 2011 at 9:24 am | # | Reply

    Everyone looks at the hat and the wardrobes or lack thereof.
    What gets me is Mr Bow’n'Arrow is shooting someone in the throat in the middle of a Grand Melle and he is not even carrying a quiver or had his bowstring sliced or the arrow knocked free or ….. WHO THE HECK USES A BOW IN CLOSE COMBAT?
    This is worse than Boris with his models looking at anything but the monster about to eat their face. BAD Artwork = Bad QC = Bad Editing = Waste of Time = Not Getting My Money.

    • gangler
      gangler
      July 19, 2011 at 9:45 am | # | Reply

      It looks to me like he’s actually shooting past the guy he’s keeping down with his boot. Either way I’m not gonna criticize a comic book character for sticking with their MO in impractical situations. The very premise of using a bow and arrow to fight crime in modern day is kind of silly to begin with.

      http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/13-joe-cooper

      You can actually clearly see his quiver. It’s hanging over his left shoulder. It’s red, as are the arrows inside it, so maybe that’s how you missed it.

  23. Shifty
    Shifty
    July 19, 2011 at 3:12 pm | # | Reply

    You know, I would have expected this comic to be a joke about Jason Todd’s off-center penis, but the hat works too.

  24. MisterFear
    MisterFear
    July 19, 2011 at 7:49 pm | # | Reply

    I think Ethan just has a booger hanging out of his left nostril. Willis just framed it wrong, which is why you can’t see it.

    It’s not really much of a joke but heck, it’s a free web comic. They can’t all be winners.

  25. Spuenk
    Spuenk
    July 20, 2011 at 10:56 am | # | Reply

    So I guess I’m the only one who had to look up who Roy Harper is? >.>
    The first Wikipedia result was very confusing/disturbing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Harper
    It made more sense when I read the comments here =p
    You never know, though.

  26. 咬住
    咬住
    August 4, 2011 at 12:36 pm | # | Reply

    This was the page I looked at when I first came here and which made me decide that I wanted to go to the beginning and read through it all. Seeing a bit more than two weeks passed since then you could say I got a bit hooked up on the comic… it has nice storytelling with diligently chiselled drama and is at the same time quite entertaining, even though I don’t get most of the geekier references.
    And it has gay love, lots of it, which is even part of the main storyline! All of that makes this whole piece awesome. I don’t regret having stayed up late to read chapter after chapter of it… and I already know it’s gonna be hard when I reach the latest page and have to wait for new ones to appear… but it’s soooo worth it! :D I just had so much fun, really!

    And I don’t want this to sound like I’m coming on to the artist or anything, so how do I make this a bit more subtle…
    WILLIS, WILL YOU MARRY ME? O_O”” ……….oooh shi-
    *hides from shame and/ or Maggie’s unavoidable rage*
    (Seriously, you rock. And I’ll go hide now.)

  27. SlenderTroll
    SlenderTroll
    August 6, 2011 at 7:23 pm | # | Reply

    And this, being the first SP! strip I ever saw, marks the end of my Shortpacked! archive binge!

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