Leslie’s been able to make her own choices from the beginning. She can choose whether or not to go out with Malaya, despite her feelings for Robin. As she’s no longer with Robin (and Robin just manipulated her), she’s totally within rights to now move onto the other cute girl hitting on her. Without being on the rebound.
It… looks like this is the same day as the previous strip. So she wants to go on a makeout movie date with Malaya a few hours after she has crazy Princess Leia sex with Robin. You don’t get much more reboundy than that.
Yes, Leslie CHOSE to sleep with Robin, despite all of their issues. Then she CHOSE to re-dump her, and then try to make out with another girl right afterwards. Leslie’s making some really inconsiderate decisions here too, let’s not forget that.
Uh… no, she chose to allow herself to be manipulated. Just because you’re being manipulated doesn’t mean that you abrogate any and all responsibility for your own actions. Especially since she knew she was being manipulated.
To suggest that she had no choice in the matter of what she decided to do is almost insulting to her character.
ALostProphet never implied that she chose to have someone manipulate her, so that’s a straw man argument.
Just because you’re being manipulated doesn’t mean that you abrogate any and all responsibility for your own actions.
It pretty obviously does abrogate your responsibility to the person who manipulated you, that supposed responsibility being the entire basis for the notion that Leslie’s actions here are in any way “inconsiderate”.
I mean just to review, Robin aggressively took advantage of personal weaknesses Leslie had disclosed in confidence, Leslie straightforwardly told her to stop and made a completely reasonable request that she needed space to sort through her feelings and vulnerability, to which Robin responded by ignoring Leslie’s non-consent to her advances and even more aggressively taking advantage of Leslie’s vulnerability.
Claiming that Leslie “chose” to be a party to this, and subsequently has some kind of obligation to Robin’s feelings, is fact-averse in a way that is viciously unsympathetic if not outright victim-blaming.
If Leslie is not responsible for her actions after being faced with Leia-Robin, then Robin is not responsible for her actions after the Cadbury Eggs.
Anything else is hypocrisy
They both knew that it could cause them problems, paused to think, and then jumped in anyways.
To say that Leslie was so hypnotised by slave-bikini rack that she had ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE WHATSOVER is disingenuous. She has free will.
Would you be supportive of a guy who claimed something like, “She was wearing a short skirt! She totally wanted it! I had to to hit that!”?
Giving in to temptation is a choice. Yes, Robin is at fault for pushing her buttons, but ultimately, Leslie is the one who caved.
Which is not to say that she deserved the consequences as they played out. Only that she did choose to give in to her weakness even though she knew it was wrong.
Same as the recovering alcoholic is the one who chooses to have a drink.
Same as a smoker on the patch is the one who chooses to light up.
Having an addiction is a mitigating circumstance, but not a denial of responsibility.
Claiming that Leslie “chose” to be a party to this, and subsequently has some kind of obligation to Robin’s feelings, is fact-averse in a way that is viciously unsympathetic if not outright victim-blaming.
However, if you look carefully at my comments you will notice that I specifically pointed out that nobody is claiming that she chose to be a party to the manipulation, and that that was a straw man argument.
What she was responsible for was her response to such obvious manipulations.
The point is, manipulated or not, Leslie made a choice. Setting aside that she’s a webcomic character, she does not lack free will. Therefore, yes, she does have responsibility for her own choices and actions.
No she chose to use the exact same behavior as has always been expected from Robin as justification to force the break off that she wasn’t brave enough to do full bore the first time around, and is riding the wave of emotional confusion into a disaster with the a girl who’s barely out of high school.
The first one is still awesome. I watched it again the other day. After having my head fulla ROTF, it was nice to see a movie that treats the Transformers as majestic and strange things.
I actually haven’t seen the first one in a while. I want to again, but I never get around to doing it.
And the thing is, there’s stuff I like about the second, too. It’s just that it tends to get mixed in with the stuff that I don’t like (Devastator is awesome! The special effects are great, the whole scene is really competently shot and really gets across how intimidating he is, it’s awesome how humans get to take him out… but why the scrotum joke? WHY?)
Mostly because it was written around the time of the last great Writer’s Strike. Audiences have been getting more and more cynical about spectacle in movies, and spectacle directors like Bay have been sacrificing story in the name of Cool Visuals. Well, upping the ante can only work so often, so it’s starting to get back to the point where movies live or die based on their plot, story and dialog.
Also, Bay has a hyperactive editing style. He’s a pretty good director when he has a strong editor or producer around to feed him his Ritalin every day. Which seems to be working out for him, ironically. He filmed this using James Cameron’s 3D techique and equipment, which requires you NOT be as frenetic as Bay likes to be with his camera. I’ve heard test screenings are coming back positive for just that reason.
Well, the reason for the humans taking him out was specifically to realize the fact that while humans were otherwise useless outside of random ‘oh look I hit a switch and something happened’ in the cartoons, they actually play a major part in a realistic scenario being capable of fighting in (at the very least) a combined group to defeat a greater threat.
It’s sort of a message that while humans by themselves are relatively weak and useless by comparison, when they’re able to combine their efforts either directly or indirectly, they would be capable of great things. It’s a shame that this is something that few if any people are willing to take to heart.
I know, right? But… Decepticon invasion force, Autobots getting mad about being lied to, freaking Shockwave? Nngh… Not sure I’m gonna be able to stay away from the theaters with this.
It feels more like to spite Robin. I dunno. Big mouth, sure, but at least Robin was trying to keep Les away from Malaya since she’s apparently just screwing with her head.
“Since she’s apparently just screwing with her head”? I really don’t think she is. Malaya’s behavior comes off as a youth messing with someone they like.
You would be surprised the non-geeks who mix up the two because they simply Don’t Care. They’ve seen Star Wars, or at least they know the plot, but the two names just mix in their head.
C’mon, David, it’s not INEVITABLE. The entertainment market is way more fragmented than it used to be, and just because she’s young doesn’t mean she has to go out and see every blockbuster, especially if they’re about things she doesn’t like. Plus, if she DID see every blockbuster, the last STAR TREK film was more recent than TRANSFORMERS.
I mean, sure, Word of God. I’ll accept that she HAS seen them. But it wasn’t a logical necessity from the text.
I am sure there are plenty of people who saw the newest Star Trek and might still mistake Leia for Star Trek. Because they have never seen Star Wars. Incredibly. They might do so even more because they saw the newest Star Trek and so all Star-thingies become Star Trek.
“I am sure there are plenty of people who saw the newest Star Trek and might still mistake Leia for Star Trek”
There is such a thing as pop-cultural osmosis, and a pop culture “collective consciousness”. It’s how just about -everyone- knows about Superman being “the last son of doomed Krypton”, even if they’ve never seen any of the movies, or read any of his comics. It’s why “No – _I_ am your father” is no longer a big twist anymore, it’s just something that’s managed to creep into the collective pop culture mind. So for Malaya to have somehow managed to miss out on either phenomena(mentioned here, not referring to Trek or Wars specifically) to the point of confusing -Leia-? Head up rear, very much so.
Except she clearly did know who leia was, enough to recognize her from some star-thingy. She just didn’t know the movies well enough to distinguish them. Its not as uncommon as you think.
well she works in a toy store, and while she doesn’t seem to care about them anyone with a pair of eyes can see that transformers and cars go hand in hand
Sounds like a variation on basic “Drinking Game” style rules…..even if she’d never actually SEEN the movies, context and the fact that Leslie mentioned it could imply that it’s a common enough occurance to be worht her time.
Even if you’d never seen the movies, you could infer from the context of Les’s comment that ‘people getting out of cars and looking up’ is something that happens a lot in them.
A much simpler answer: Leslie suggested making what is basically a drinking game out of people getting out of cars and looking up, so Malaya figured it was something that happens with some frequency in these films.
While I was royally pissed at Malaya’s manipulative side in the last few comics, I’ve been pretty convinced that she does indeed like Leslie, given the way she reacted before it seemed she knew the Leslie/Robin story (still possible she did).
Malaya’s interaction in this will reveal a lot with how she interacts with the others in such a “geeky” scenario.
Also, movie makeouts drinking game style? I so have to try this with my girlfriend. Possibly including both.
Maybe Malaya can redeem herself. Still, STAR TREK?
Digidestined of Trust/Megaligo Ranger-Silver Dragon Knight (Tim)
Don’t forget Amber! There are about 10 minutes worth of previews. Took my little sister today to see Cars 2, which started at 1:15 and we got there at 1:25 as the little Toy Story mini-movie spoof was just starting. Pending on how far the theatre is, you can get popcorn and drink and walk in just as the beginning credits and scenes for the movie is starting.
Maybe she assumes Leslie knows that, since Leslie brought it up. After all, you don’t say “let’s take a shot every time XXXX happens” unless you expect XXXX to happen often.
Ugh. I hope she really thought about this. It seems like she might be doing the thing robin was “protecting” her from in an attempt to separate herself and prove herself independent of robin (if only for her own peace of mind), and doing it for those reasons might not be such a good idea.
Are there any characters left who are supposed to be likable in this thing? I guess I still pretty much like Ethan, but that’s it. Leslie just fell off the bus. Fuck you, Leslie, for being such a user.
Hmm, I still can’t say I approve of the idea of Leslie and Malaya. Hell, I’m still not sure I approve of the idea of Malaya, but so far, it seems like both of them are just after a physical thing with each other. Honestly, a purely physical relationship would likely be healthy for Leslie right now.
This does feel a bit like we skipped an important bit where Les and Malaya establish between each other, “Okay, you DO like me like THAT, right? I’m reading the signals correctly?”
Granted, Leslie deciding to pounce on Malaya is not out of character, exactly: she is ABSOLUTELY a “rebound relationship” sort of person, and she’s clearly trying to wash Robin out of her mouth. And I guess Robin herself confirmed to Les that Malaya’s “cramp” wasn’t just a cramp. Good one, Robin.
Still seems kinda whiplashy, but I guess that’s how Leslie rolls: it sure didn’t take her long to throw herself at Robin, either.
All the Malaynaysayers should take note: we do know that Malaya is a prejudiced person, but so far, she doesn’t seem to be the sort who CLINGS to her ignorance. She seems much more baffled than contemptuous about Les and Ethan’s fandoms, and hasn’t seemed to retreat from either of them. It’s possible that, while everyone’s distracted by her role in the love triangle, she might actually be growing as a person on other fronts.
Oh, I’d say Robin pretty much confirmed Malaya’s intentions with her little speech. Of course, that’s assuming that Leslie is assuming Robin is correct.
love the looks in panels 3 & 5, but doesn’t that meant they’ll be kissing during every scene except the ones where sam is yelling either bumble bee or optimus? they’re not even going to know whats in the movie..hah
You’re forgetting the racial stereotypes, and the robot pissing scenes. There’s also the fight scenes where you can’t tell which robot just got killed.
Ethan amuses me like mad here. Also amusing that Amber at least tried to protest. XD
Leslie: I am sorry, girl. You just lost my sympathy. Knowingly doing something everyone else is either saying is bad for you, or is at least not wanting to be around much, like this, especially when it’s very likely just to spite the person who just warned you about it… It’s bad enough watching people be self-destructive in real life, much less my comics. Good job though, Mr. Willis.
Sorry, but I can see why Leslie would do this. Her ex, a woman she loves but is always driven by impulse and who is in many ways bad for her, is the only person who warned her, and it’s not like she said “Ok, look. We need to talk. Malaya is bad for you.” No, instead she seduced Leslie and then acted all like she “saved” Leslie. To Leslie, that comes off as being jealous as well as hurtful, because it only proves how Robin hasn’t changed and is just bad for her.
And she also said that was how she met Robin and while right now Robin is bad for her I wouldn’t say Robin will always be bad for her. The way I see it, Robin is the ideal type for Leslie. It’s just that Robin needs to change. She needs to become a better person than who she is now (And I’m expecting this to happen at some point)
As for Malaya, the only reason people can call her as being bad for Leslie is simply because she has it out there to hurt Robin for what appears to be no reason at all. But as has been seen from Willis, he’ll often introduce characters like this and then, after everyone hates them, suddenly drop down a redeeming storyline to improve the character and change people’s thoughts.
I’m gonna chip in to say that Leslie was pretty interested in Malaya before the fight with Robin, so saying it’s out of spite is probably out of line. This was gonna happen one way or the other. There was never really a time when Leslie and Malaya weren’t gonna check eachother out.
And honestly? I think Leslie’s fully capable of deciding who she wants to fuck. Just because the mating dance was briefly interrupted by a coital intermission doesn’t invalidate her decision to pick up where she left off.
Self destructive was when she immediately fell head over heels for the mystery stranger using her to attain jealousy and then proceeded to continue pursuing that relationship once the plot and sexual orientation were revealed. This right here probably isn’t the wisest decision anyone’s made, but we’re all entitled to disregard sense and wisdom in favor of fun once in a while.
i’d say it’s still out of spite. it’s just not entirely spiteful. she was torn between malaya and robin. she chose robin, but realized that robin was still the same person she’s always been. the same day, she invites malaya to make out with her in a theater for two hours. and robin is expected to be there. that just screams spite.
It’s also fair to note that dating Malaya to spite Robin is… not in Leslie’s character. At all. She’s not the jealous type by any means and she’s not the type to want revenge of any sort. If she was either of these, I think Leslie would’ve done more than just date Malaya out of spite (Like, say, slap Robin, because Robin deserves to be slapped many times right now). This has a big impact on how to look at Leslie’s actions.
Remember, too, that Malaya originally approached Leslie with questions about coming out to her parents. We didn’t hear most of that conversation, but even if Leslie wasn’t originally interested in her romantically/physically, that approach was bound to generate some sympathy. Apart from Leslie’s own difficult past in that regard, we’ve seen that she likes to play a mentoring role (as seen in her interactions with Ethan), so she was positively inclined toward Malaya in a way others weren’t even before Malaya started coming on to her. If she were going after someone just from spite, she’d be coming on to Sydney Yus.
Yes Leslie, way to go out with someone who’s expressed an interest in you and in whom you yourself were already interested, inexplicably refusing the advice of your crazy, emotionally manipulative ex.
This seems like it’s a spite date for Leslie.
I bet half way through; either Leslie realizes the skeeziness of her move or Robin shows up and the Drama tab makes its return.
I’m not surprised by Leslie. At all. I AM surprised that Ethan bothered to buy Malaya a ticket for the premiere, though! And after the way she trash-talked Transformers in front of him!
And so my respect for leslie falls into the blackened abyss of stench and decay hoping one day to be salvaged by her getting a b**** slap reality check on how immature she’s being. Something that I would not have a problem with were it not for the fact she’s probably the most mature of the entire staff.
She’s snuck a clause into a law Robin was trying to pass that would have forced them to make out and covered herself in chocolate to overwhelm Robin’s preferences and get some nookie. While disappointing this immaturity isn’t exactly surprising.
Eh, the second one was only so abysmal ‘cuz it was “written” during the writer’s strike. Even the negative reviews on RottenTomatoes already say that DOTM is way better than ROTF.
A while ago some of my friends were whining about not getting to look at Megan Fox in this movie. One even went so far as to say he might not see it. Of course then I had to show him a pic of the new girl and he repealed his statement. Personally I could care less about any of the people. I just don’t understand how he could let the fake Parolee Pinup Barbie that is Megan Fox overshadow the shear awesome that is giant fighting robots. I mean come on, Megan Fox doesn’t even have her own toy line.
my former manager (he got transferred to another store) stated his only reason for watching the movies was Fox, and that he’d never see the third. idk if he still feels that way though
Leslie is PERFECTLY free to do whatever (whoever) she wants. That having been said, I am disappoint girl. This is a bad decision, and you will feel bad. Try being single for a while or screw someone who isn’t trying to get revenge (for some reason) on someone you love instead. Just ugh.
Still not sure why people think this thing with Malaya being after Les is to piss of Robin. She was after Les before she ever met Robin. And as for the hostility towards her when she did meet her, think of the context of that meeting. This comic would be pretty much my take on Robin too http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/02-the-new-girl/deserve-2/
Debatable. Unless Malaya’s a lot more of a chessmaster than a lot of us give her credit for – I honestly believe that she’s too lazy and dismissive to have done any research on anyone before being introduced to them – she’s beaming at Leslie like a puppy two panels before she finds out that Leslie and Robin used to be an item, and her response is “She likes girls?” not “She dated Robin?”
Malaya doesn’t like Robin, and she’s in major need of an attitude adjustment… but honestly, I can’t say I blame her for reacting the way she does to having Leslie’s ex hanging around watching them and threatening Malaya the first chance she gets her alone. Robin is acting every inch the creepy possessive ex, and Malaya is under no obligation to roll over and let Robin have her way.
I’m… actually feeling kind of sorry for Malaya here. Sure, the girl has her faults, but I wouldn’t say that means she deserves to be caught between Leslie and Robin like this.
It’s not what I’d call an informed decision, though. There’s a difference between a)flirting with an attractive, single person and refusing to get scared off when their ex gets possessive and b)being the rebound for someone who is still obsessed with their ex, while said ex is willing to use all of their super-human ability to ruin you and win them back. Malaya doesn’t know enough about the big picture for me to really feel comfortable saying she’s brought this on herself.
WHOAH, they made a “Dark Side of the Moon” movie?
Awesome! I can’t believe Pink Floyd signed off on that, I can’t wait to– Wait, what? Transformers 3? That does seem a lot more plausible. Sigh.
So she breaks up with her girlfriend. That’s fine, she had a good reason. But then she gets back with her long enough to sleep with her, and then dumps her immediately after, while telling her she still loves her (a huge break-up no-no), and then tries to make out with ANOTHER girl a few hours later? That’s seriously impressive douchebaggery there, Leslie. Seriously impressive.
Er, yes, if by “gets back with her long enough to sleep with her, and then dumps her immediately after” you mean “is seduced when Robin shows up in the middle of the work day in what amounts to fetish gear for these two and proceeds to strip when Leslie tries to object, and then realizes the enormity of her mistake immediately after.”
I mean, Leslie’s not on her best behavior here, but she’s hardly the only one at fault in this clusterfuck.
Heres to more focus on the Transformers, and hopefully (for me anyways) to them not being so damn flippity. They’re giant freaking robots! Not gymnasts on crack!
Transformers 3? Really, Ethan? Really Willis? I don’t even know where to begin. I don’t know what kind of Stockholm-esque, battered-spouse-esque phenomenon is going on with Transformers fans. I mean, at least batman fans learned from their mistake in seeing Batman Forever, and had the good sense not to go see Batman and Robin afterwards. You guys watch RotF, something infinitely worse then either of the Schumacher Batman films, and then line up to buy imax-3d tickets for another bayformer film, in the hope that it will somehow magically be better?
Like he’s going to respect you this time? Like he’s going to lay off the booze? Like he’s not going to beat you any more, this time he’s really changing? Girl, you’ve got to get out of that abusive relationship. Learn to respect yourself – have faith that your license is worth something. You’ll find another movie franchise, you don’t need that douche. Batman got out of her abusive relationship, and look who she’s with now! Airbender left her man, and she’s doing fine on her own with a new TV series in 2012. You’ve still got your family with Hasbro on the Hub.
Actually Airbender might still be stuck in her abusive relationship. They’re still in talks about doing a sequel film. {:-( Poor Airbender… no one deserves that black eye…
Of course, it’s already lost points for taking out Mudflap and Skids, if that was true. I only bought 4 Revenge of the Fallen toys. Soundwave and Ravage (Soundwave having always been my favorite character) and the Twins, being the most interesting characters in the Bayformer films.
I have to wait a day. Tomorrow at 6:30 imax 3D. This way I can be sure it will be great because even if it turns out to be a huge letdown anything in imax 3D is worth the money. I would watch the price is right on imax if I could.
Leslie Leslie Leslie… you make me sad. I hope you find out what its like to be manipulated by the self centered uncaring bitch. Perhaps then you can see the self centered but occasionally self destructive wonderful girl you had was in fact better for you. Or that you have weird fucking taste in girls in general.
You know, after this strip… I’ve considered something. There’s only one other person in the store that this can further involve who isn’t in a relationship. The comparisons between robin and malaya show robin to be the better of the two… and when you consider the sex tape… I think this is going to end with robin in a relationship *even if it’s brief* with Ken and Malaya and Leslie miserable because of their own demons.
Ken seems to follow robin’s crazyness to some extent, instead of going ‘wtf’ to her roadrunner analogy, he followed it and even asked the burning question without BSOD. Since Leslie’s already said her say on things and is going to do something she knows robin is going to see… I think Robin’s going to go for the one person who’s already told her malaya’s made his life miserable and do what she can to fix that.
I always wonder how anyone can still be excited by the prospect of another Michael Bay Transformers movie. I was annoyed by the “comedy relief” in the first one, and then the second one was awful in every way possible. The trailer for the new one looks awesome, but then I just KNOW we’ll be “treated” to more “comedy.”
Ahem, sorry, rant over.
I’m surprised at Leslie. Malaya is flat out horrible. She makes Faz look less obnoxious by comparison.
…Wow, Leslie seriously got over Robin rather quickly. I mean, its immediately after the last strip she wants to make out with Malaya? I wonder if she’s seriously interested in Malaya or just using her as a rebound.
And I’m surprised that Ethan got a ticket for Malaya considering how dismissive she is about the franchise. I guess he’s trying to convert her or something? (Yeah, I don’t recommend trying to do that with a Bay film…)
I’m going to be skipping the Transformers 3 flick myself. I got burned twice by the previous two films, and I’m not going to dish out money for a third. The first one was decent, but I didn’t like it that much. The second one was terrible in my personal opinion. Bay’s films honestly feel like an abusive boyfriend. You know that he’s no good for you and that you’re going to end up either angry or depressed. You know that its just going to be one bad, offensive and plot-hole situation after another. And after every time, you walk out while swearing “I’m never going back to him”. But then he shows up with a new movie that looks so cool, and he swears to you “Don’t worry baby, it’ll be different this time! I’ll treat you right!”. And then the cycle starts up all over again.
Well, sorry gang, not again. I’ll wait until it’s on netflicks.
Well, I don’t mean “over” in the complete and total “I don’t love them anymore” manner, but over Robin enough to attempt to pursue some kind of relationship (whether it just be make-outs) with another woman so quickly. Most people don’t rush into make-outs with another person immediately after walking away from the person you loved for several years.
LMK if they explain why Sam and Mikaela’s characters broke up. I remember Sam tricking her into saying “I love you” to be a major plot point of ROTF. I also noticed the “Megan Fox leg humping robot” in the trailers, why isn’t he with Mikaela if the two split up?
I’m seein it with my dad, gonna make it a hat trick..
s’funny, after RotF he was like “welll it’s not something I would’ve seen on my own..” but DURING it, he was pointing out and identifying every milit’ry vehicle.. having a blast.
I’m watching it at midnight since my cousin doesn’t get out of work til like 10:30ish. Also if I still had a job I would pull the Fire Alarm to go watch it too. Actually if I still had a job I already would have watched the movie since I used to work at a movie theater that had special screenings of movies early for the press and my coworker always got me in. I miss those times.
Just wanted to say, that as a 41 year old woman, I laughed at the scrotum scene in ROTF. So did my 43 year old girlfriend who was watching the movie at the theater with me.
And jeebus. It’s Transformers, not Shakespeare. Go write your own fanfic if you want to ride the angstmobile.
A bunch of small Decepticons combined into a big one. You’d think this would make it really powerful right? No, not really as the Autobots just hid underneath its ridiculous girth. But hey, it has a giant vacuum eating attack, that’ll probably do some damage if it connects right? Ooo, an Autobot got sucked directly into the horrible tooth filled buzzsaw mouth, he’s a goner. And… nope he killed it after directly falling victim to its most powerful and direct attack. Dumbest movie I’ve seen in a great while.
I was about to say that for some reason Leslie looks a million times prettier then usual in panel six, then I noticed that it was because she actually had proper eyes for the first time…
What do you know, your comic from waaaay back in 2007 turned out to be true. Transformers movies now could be called “Buckets of Blood”.Or “Buckets of Energon”, rather. If someone told me back then that Optimus Prime would be responsible for spilling most of it, I’d have laughed, saying that’s Grimlock’s job. Sigh…
I love that eighth panel silhouette there. Really accentuates that Leslie is making a very deliberate decision. And very good pacing in a comic otherwise already full of plot.
Rebound much? =|
Not really rebound, per say.
Leslie’s been able to make her own choices from the beginning. She can choose whether or not to go out with Malaya, despite her feelings for Robin. As she’s no longer with Robin (and Robin just manipulated her), she’s totally within rights to now move onto the other cute girl hitting on her. Without being on the rebound.
I agree with everything you are saying except where you are saying that Leslie is not on the rebound, which she totally is.
It… looks like this is the same day as the previous strip. So she wants to go on a makeout movie date with Malaya a few hours after she has crazy Princess Leia sex with Robin. You don’t get much more reboundy than that.
It could also be spite, knowing Robin did what she did to beat Malaya rather than get back with Leslie.
If it were spite, I think she would’ve been a lot meaner yesterday. Leslie doesn’t seem to DO spite.
Yes, Leslie CHOSE to sleep with Robin, despite all of their issues. Then she CHOSE to re-dump her, and then try to make out with another girl right afterwards. Leslie’s making some really inconsiderate decisions here too, let’s not forget that.
yes leslie CHOSE to have someone emotionally manipulate her into a bad decision
that
bitch
Uh… no, she chose to allow herself to be manipulated. Just because you’re being manipulated doesn’t mean that you abrogate any and all responsibility for your own actions. Especially since she knew she was being manipulated.
To suggest that she had no choice in the matter of what she decided to do is almost insulting to her character.
ALostProphet never implied that she chose to have someone manipulate her, so that’s a straw man argument.
Just because you’re being manipulated doesn’t mean that you abrogate any and all responsibility for your own actions.
It pretty obviously does abrogate your responsibility to the person who manipulated you, that supposed responsibility being the entire basis for the notion that Leslie’s actions here are in any way “inconsiderate”.
I mean just to review, Robin aggressively took advantage of personal weaknesses Leslie had disclosed in confidence, Leslie straightforwardly told her to stop and made a completely reasonable request that she needed space to sort through her feelings and vulnerability, to which Robin responded by ignoring Leslie’s non-consent to her advances and even more aggressively taking advantage of Leslie’s vulnerability.
Claiming that Leslie “chose” to be a party to this, and subsequently has some kind of obligation to Robin’s feelings, is fact-averse in a way that is viciously unsympathetic if not outright victim-blaming.
If Leslie is not responsible for her actions after being faced with Leia-Robin, then Robin is not responsible for her actions after the Cadbury Eggs.
Anything else is hypocrisy
They both knew that it could cause them problems, paused to think, and then jumped in anyways.
To say that Leslie was so hypnotised by slave-bikini rack that she had ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE WHATSOVER is disingenuous. She has free will.
Would you be supportive of a guy who claimed something like, “She was wearing a short skirt! She totally wanted it! I had to to hit that!”?
Giving in to temptation is a choice. Yes, Robin is at fault for pushing her buttons, but ultimately, Leslie is the one who caved.
Which is not to say that she deserved the consequences as they played out. Only that she did choose to give in to her weakness even though she knew it was wrong.
Same as the recovering alcoholic is the one who chooses to have a drink.
Same as a smoker on the patch is the one who chooses to light up.
Having an addiction is a mitigating circumstance, but not a denial of responsibility.
Claiming that Leslie “chose” to be a party to this, and subsequently has some kind of obligation to Robin’s feelings, is fact-averse in a way that is viciously unsympathetic if not outright victim-blaming.
However, if you look carefully at my comments you will notice that I specifically pointed out that nobody is claiming that she chose to be a party to the manipulation, and that that was a straw man argument.
What she was responsible for was her response to such obvious manipulations.
The point is, manipulated or not, Leslie made a choice. Setting aside that she’s a webcomic character, she does not lack free will. Therefore, yes, she does have responsibility for her own choices and actions.
Shorter Leslie Critics: ” ‘No’ totally means ‘keep pressing and maybe I’ll give in’ “
Again, no, that’s not our argument at all. You’ve totally missed the point.
No she chose to use the exact same behavior as has always been expected from Robin as justification to force the break off that she wasn’t brave enough to do full bore the first time around, and is riding the wave of emotional confusion into a disaster with the a girl who’s barely out of high school.
It’s “per se”!!! it’s latin.
Thank you. I thought I was going to have to live up to my username there for a minute, but now I don’t have to.
Concerning the Transformers movies:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thr-oh hey, the trailer looks really cool this time!
The first one is still awesome. I watched it again the other day. After having my head fulla ROTF, it was nice to see a movie that treats the Transformers as majestic and strange things.
I actually haven’t seen the first one in a while. I want to again, but I never get around to doing it.
And the thing is, there’s stuff I like about the second, too. It’s just that it tends to get mixed in with the stuff that I don’t like (Devastator is awesome! The special effects are great, the whole scene is really competently shot and really gets across how intimidating he is, it’s awesome how humans get to take him out… but why the scrotum joke? WHY?)
Because Michael Bay stopped maturing at the age of 13?
When I was thirteen, I didn’t find those jokes funny.
Im always amazed that 500 people can work on a movie and s**t like that still gets done……….
Mostly because it was written around the time of the last great Writer’s Strike. Audiences have been getting more and more cynical about spectacle in movies, and spectacle directors like Bay have been sacrificing story in the name of Cool Visuals. Well, upping the ante can only work so often, so it’s starting to get back to the point where movies live or die based on their plot, story and dialog.
Also, Bay has a hyperactive editing style. He’s a pretty good director when he has a strong editor or producer around to feed him his Ritalin every day. Which seems to be working out for him, ironically. He filmed this using James Cameron’s 3D techique and equipment, which requires you NOT be as frenetic as Bay likes to be with his camera. I’ve heard test screenings are coming back positive for just that reason.
Says a lot about human nature, if you think about it.
RotF was two and a half hours of Michael Bay tea bagging the audience. I will never knowingly see another movie that he’s involved with again.
Well, the reason for the humans taking him out was specifically to realize the fact that while humans were otherwise useless outside of random ‘oh look I hit a switch and something happened’ in the cartoons, they actually play a major part in a realistic scenario being capable of fighting in (at the very least) a combined group to defeat a greater threat.
It’s sort of a message that while humans by themselves are relatively weak and useless by comparison, when they’re able to combine their efforts either directly or indirectly, they would be capable of great things. It’s a shame that this is something that few if any people are willing to take to heart.
I think “awesome” is a little more complimentary than anything Bay’s ever done deserves. I’d call the first one “okay” or “acceptable.”
You know, as opposed to the second one’s “atrocity.”
That piss on people.
I like to see a whole movie about the witwicky parents honestly. feels like some one competent wrote those two characters.
Yeah, I almost always like them. (I didn’t like them in ROTF’s college scene, but other than that, they’re my favorite characters.)
They acted just like my parents when I went to college.
So it was a horror movie to me.
I know, right? But… Decepticon invasion force, Autobots getting mad about being lied to, freaking Shockwave? Nngh… Not sure I’m gonna be able to stay away from the theaters with this.
Wow, Robin actually screwed her eyes -in-. Is panel six the first time we’ve seen Leslie with whites in her eyes?
And it’s an improvent that is for certain.
Next thing you know, people will be demanding Walky and Sal with sclerae as well.
And then, what’s next? Nostrils?
Now that is just wrong.
I don’t know why, but Leslie with the whites in her eyes makes me think of Dina!
Now I can’t unsee that, thanks
Awww, c’mon, you know that’s awesome.
Dina’s awesome!
she looks alot better like that
After all that time people spent worrying about Malaya manipulating Leslie, it turns out she’s capable of making her own decisions. Imagine that.
Aaaaand now I feel like Leslie’s become an ass.
Fantastic.
Because of what, going on a date with someone she likes?
It feels more like to spite Robin. I dunno. Big mouth, sure, but at least Robin was trying to keep Les away from Malaya since she’s apparently just screwing with her head.
Leslie probably didn’t believe Robin’s claims against Malaya’s sincerity.
Attractive woman hits on you and then your EX tells you she’s up to no good? Yeah, right. No way you’re going to believe that.
Leslie might have been more receptive if Amber or Ethan had warned her about Malaya instead.
“Since she’s apparently just screwing with her head”? I really don’t think she is. Malaya’s behavior comes off as a youth messing with someone they like.
Agreed. “Fun to mess with” doesn’t have to mean “someone I want to destroy.” It can just as easily mean “cute when flustered.”
I am also of this line of thought.
Hmm. Hard to say. If so, it would be the first genuinely positive emotion we’ve seen her display.
I just love Ethan’s “Ravage Lives” shirt.
Wait-A-Minute, how does Malaya know enough about Transformer to know what happens in the movies?
Are my closet-geek senses tingling?
She’s undoubtedly seen them. They’re big mass-appeal blockbuster movies and she’s in her early twenties.
But Willis! She DIDN’T know ANYTHING about a character from movies which were major blockbusters several years before she was born!
CLEARLY SHE DOES NOT LIVE IN THE WORLD
She saw the movie, but isn’t geeky enough to obsessively wiki it all.
If you aren’t driven to Wiki it (when did that become a verb, btw?), then you haven’t really seen it.
So seeing the Transformers movie does not a geek make then. I keep forgetting that Sci-Fi is more mainstream these days.
He was referring to how last week Malaya called Leia a character from “Star Trek”.
I think even the least geekiest person in the world is not THAT out of the reference pool.
Malaya’s reference pool must be clogged with algae.
That movie was made, like, decades before she was born. She hasn’t seen it.
You would be surprised the non-geeks who mix up the two because they simply Don’t Care. They’ve seen Star Wars, or at least they know the plot, but the two names just mix in their head.
A while back I had to stop my lit class to show a girl what the death star was on the smart board.
C’mon, David, it’s not INEVITABLE. The entertainment market is way more fragmented than it used to be, and just because she’s young doesn’t mean she has to go out and see every blockbuster, especially if they’re about things she doesn’t like. Plus, if she DID see every blockbuster, the last STAR TREK film was more recent than TRANSFORMERS.
I mean, sure, Word of God. I’ll accept that she HAS seen them. But it wasn’t a logical necessity from the text.
I am sure there are plenty of people who saw the newest Star Trek and might still mistake Leia for Star Trek. Because they have never seen Star Wars. Incredibly. They might do so even more because they saw the newest Star Trek and so all Star-thingies become Star Trek.
“I am sure there are plenty of people who saw the newest Star Trek and might still mistake Leia for Star Trek”
There is such a thing as pop-cultural osmosis, and a pop culture “collective consciousness”. It’s how just about -everyone- knows about Superman being “the last son of doomed Krypton”, even if they’ve never seen any of the movies, or read any of his comics. It’s why “No – _I_ am your father” is no longer a big twist anymore, it’s just something that’s managed to creep into the collective pop culture mind. So for Malaya to have somehow managed to miss out on either phenomena(mentioned here, not referring to Trek or Wars specifically) to the point of confusing -Leia-? Head up rear, very much so.
Except she clearly did know who leia was, enough to recognize her from some star-thingy. She just didn’t know the movies well enough to distinguish them. Its not as uncommon as you think.
Oh, so it’s not just me.
well she works in a toy store, and while she doesn’t seem to care about them anyone with a pair of eyes can see that transformers and cars go hand in hand
Sounds like a variation on basic “Drinking Game” style rules…..even if she’d never actually SEEN the movies, context and the fact that Leslie mentioned it could imply that it’s a common enough occurance to be worht her time.
Even if you’d never seen the movies, you could infer from the context of Les’s comment that ‘people getting out of cars and looking up’ is something that happens a lot in them.
A much simpler answer: Leslie suggested making what is basically a drinking game out of people getting out of cars and looking up, so Malaya figured it was something that happens with some frequency in these films.
Have you seen the commercials for the movie? Or ANY kind of Michael Bay film in fact? Not that hard to figure out.
I actually want to go to the premier. Have an extra ticket for me Willis? I do live in Cincinnati
Panel five Ethan is scary. He will see that premier, by any means necessary.
Ethan looked like he aged an extra 30 years in Panel 5.
I’m now nicknmaing Robin “Inventory”
Well, this confirms that Malaya does indeed like girls. Unless she’s playing games again. *sigh*
Not necessarily. Leslie was the one who asked, and Malaya’s face is more stunned than anything else.
Well, wouldn’t she say “I’m not going to make out with you, because I only like you as a friend”?
While I was royally pissed at Malaya’s manipulative side in the last few comics, I’ve been pretty convinced that she does indeed like Leslie, given the way she reacted before it seemed she knew the Leslie/Robin story (still possible she did).
Malaya’s interaction in this will reveal a lot with how she interacts with the others in such a “geeky” scenario.
Also, movie makeouts drinking game style? I so have to try this with my girlfriend. Possibly including both.
Maybe Malaya can redeem herself. Still, STAR TREK?
Don’t forget Amber! There are about 10 minutes worth of previews. Took my little sister today to see Cars 2, which started at 1:15 and we got there at 1:25 as the little Toy Story mini-movie spoof was just starting. Pending on how far the theatre is, you can get popcorn and drink and walk in just as the beginning credits and scenes for the movie is starting.
I’m not saying Malaya’s wrong, but how does she even know that?
It’s obvious that she’s been forced to watch the cartoons and each of the moves that have come out despite her not wanting to see them.
The looking up thing is a Bay-ism, not a Transformers in general thing. No way in hell has Malaya seen the cartoons, you are straight up tripping sir.
Maybe she assumes Leslie knows that, since Leslie brought it up. After all, you don’t say “let’s take a shot every time XXXX happens” unless you expect XXXX to happen often.
Booooo! BOOOOO!
All I hear is the dukes of hazard narrator saying “Well it looks like Malaya just bit off more than she can chew hoo-nellyboy!”
Well, see, there is your problem. You aren’t supposed to chew it.
Transformers 3, eh? Well that sounds like a horrible time for everyone (trollin’ on dubs!).
Not for Leslie and Malaya, it seems.
Leslie is a Pimp! I love her now!
Please do not sully Leslie’s good name by calling her something so vile.
More importantly, she’s not a pimp, since she’s not marketing out other people’s sexual activities. This is her own self she’s dealing with.
This is going to end with Malaya pulling a Robin and sticking her foot in her mouth after the sexy makeouts, isn’t it?
…Isn’t it?
Ugh. I hope she really thought about this. It seems like she might be doing the thing robin was “protecting” her from in an attempt to separate herself and prove herself independent of robin (if only for her own peace of mind), and doing it for those reasons might not be such a good idea.
this guy gets what I’m talking about.
Or maybe she’s just had enough and said “OK, three can play this game”.
I dig today’s comic. Things may go downhill, but today is beautiful.
I have a bad feeling about this.
Hey, no Star Trek quotes!
Oh no, we’re DOOOMED!
Are there any characters left who are supposed to be likable in this thing? I guess I still pretty much like Ethan, but that’s it. Leslie just fell off the bus. Fuck you, Leslie, for being such a user.
Oh, well. Is it really a crime to use a user?
Woah, panel 5… Ethan-rilla? 0.o
Hmm, I still can’t say I approve of the idea of Leslie and Malaya. Hell, I’m still not sure I approve of the idea of Malaya, but so far, it seems like both of them are just after a physical thing with each other. Honestly, a purely physical relationship would likely be healthy for Leslie right now.
Meh, girl makeouts, can’t complain.
This does feel a bit like we skipped an important bit where Les and Malaya establish between each other, “Okay, you DO like me like THAT, right? I’m reading the signals correctly?”
Granted, Leslie deciding to pounce on Malaya is not out of character, exactly: she is ABSOLUTELY a “rebound relationship” sort of person, and she’s clearly trying to wash Robin out of her mouth. And I guess Robin herself confirmed to Les that Malaya’s “cramp” wasn’t just a cramp. Good one, Robin.
Still seems kinda whiplashy, but I guess that’s how Leslie rolls: it sure didn’t take her long to throw herself at Robin, either.
All the Malaynaysayers should take note: we do know that Malaya is a prejudiced person, but so far, she doesn’t seem to be the sort who CLINGS to her ignorance. She seems much more baffled than contemptuous about Les and Ethan’s fandoms, and hasn’t seemed to retreat from either of them. It’s possible that, while everyone’s distracted by her role in the love triangle, she might actually be growing as a person on other fronts.
“wash Robin out of her mouth”
…Goddammit, T.
I can fit Robin’s entire hand in my mouth!
Oh, I’d say Robin pretty much confirmed Malaya’s intentions with her little speech. Of course, that’s assuming that Leslie is assuming Robin is correct.
“I love you Robin… that’s why I’m going to have sloppy make-outs with this chick you hate tonight.”
HA HA OH WOW
“It was really hurtful when I saw that video of you having relations with someone else. Come to the movie tonight and I’ll elaborate on my point.”
Not spiteful at all ha ha
Those skulls are good for those laughs
I love Ethan’s Fire Alarm Face.
love the looks in panels 3 & 5, but doesn’t that meant they’ll be kissing during every scene except the ones where sam is yelling either bumble bee or optimus? they’re not even going to know whats in the movie..hah
you forgot all the times where sam’s mom is annoying and when there are small robots humping stuff.
You’re forgetting the racial stereotypes, and the robot pissing scenes. There’s also the fight scenes where you can’t tell which robot just got killed.
An don’t forget the military vehicle montages and the way the sun sets every five minutes.
Ethan amuses me like mad here. Also amusing that Amber at least tried to protest. XD
Leslie: I am sorry, girl. You just lost my sympathy. Knowingly doing something everyone else is either saying is bad for you, or is at least not wanting to be around much, like this, especially when it’s very likely just to spite the person who just warned you about it… It’s bad enough watching people be self-destructive in real life, much less my comics. Good job though, Mr. Willis.
Everyone? When did one person become everyone?
Sorry, but I can see why Leslie would do this. Her ex, a woman she loves but is always driven by impulse and who is in many ways bad for her, is the only person who warned her, and it’s not like she said “Ok, look. We need to talk. Malaya is bad for you.” No, instead she seduced Leslie and then acted all like she “saved” Leslie. To Leslie, that comes off as being jealous as well as hurtful, because it only proves how Robin hasn’t changed and is just bad for her.
She’s already stated her confusion about how “no one seems to like” (Malaya.)
And she also said that was how she met Robin and while right now Robin is bad for her I wouldn’t say Robin will always be bad for her. The way I see it, Robin is the ideal type for Leslie. It’s just that Robin needs to change. She needs to become a better person than who she is now (And I’m expecting this to happen at some point)
As for Malaya, the only reason people can call her as being bad for Leslie is simply because she has it out there to hurt Robin for what appears to be no reason at all. But as has been seen from Willis, he’ll often introduce characters like this and then, after everyone hates them, suddenly drop down a redeeming storyline to improve the character and change people’s thoughts.
I’m gonna chip in to say that Leslie was pretty interested in Malaya before the fight with Robin, so saying it’s out of spite is probably out of line. This was gonna happen one way or the other. There was never really a time when Leslie and Malaya weren’t gonna check eachother out.
And honestly? I think Leslie’s fully capable of deciding who she wants to fuck. Just because the mating dance was briefly interrupted by a coital intermission doesn’t invalidate her decision to pick up where she left off.
Self destructive was when she immediately fell head over heels for the mystery stranger using her to attain jealousy and then proceeded to continue pursuing that relationship once the plot and sexual orientation were revealed. This right here probably isn’t the wisest decision anyone’s made, but we’re all entitled to disregard sense and wisdom in favor of fun once in a while.
i’d say it’s still out of spite. it’s just not entirely spiteful. she was torn between malaya and robin. she chose robin, but realized that robin was still the same person she’s always been. the same day, she invites malaya to make out with her in a theater for two hours. and robin is expected to be there. that just screams spite.
It’s also fair to note that dating Malaya to spite Robin is… not in Leslie’s character. At all. She’s not the jealous type by any means and she’s not the type to want revenge of any sort. If she was either of these, I think Leslie would’ve done more than just date Malaya out of spite (Like, say, slap Robin, because Robin deserves to be slapped many times right now). This has a big impact on how to look at Leslie’s actions.
Yeah, I’m not so sure that sounds as spiteful as you think it does.
Remember, too, that Malaya originally approached Leslie with questions about coming out to her parents. We didn’t hear most of that conversation, but even if Leslie wasn’t originally interested in her romantically/physically, that approach was bound to generate some sympathy. Apart from Leslie’s own difficult past in that regard, we’ve seen that she likes to play a mentoring role (as seen in her interactions with Ethan), so she was positively inclined toward Malaya in a way others weren’t even before Malaya started coming on to her. If she were going after someone just from spite, she’d be coming on to Sydney Yus.
Yes Leslie, way to go out with someone who’s expressed an interest in you and in whom you yourself were already interested, inexplicably refusing the advice of your crazy, emotionally manipulative ex.
Damn it, Leslie!
This seems like it’s a spite date for Leslie.
I bet half way through; either Leslie realizes the skeeziness of her move or Robin shows up and the Drama tab makes its return.
Makes its return?
It left?
And then Ethan shouts “STOP TALKING DURING MY MOVIE!”
Even if that doesn’t happen, I will pretend it did afterward.
I’m not surprised by Leslie. At all. I AM surprised that Ethan bothered to buy Malaya a ticket for the premiere, though! And after the way she trash-talked Transformers in front of him!
The generosity of Transfans, even one as spiteful and wiki-obsessive as Ethan, knows know bounds.
Nonononono! >(
$10 on sam saying that line at least five times in the movie.
$20 on Sam yelling “Optimus” or “Bumblebee” or any other name more times that someone getting out of a car and looking up.
Leslie would get much more action if that was the game.
YOU GO, LESLIE!
Woo! Only 21 hours until the Michael Bay Transformers series is over!
Ouch
PS Am I the only one who thought “Dark of the Moon” was probably some sparkly vampire movie or something before they actually said “Transformers”?
Sorry but yes, you’re alone on that one
No, I thought it was another of those dang Twilight movies myself.
Same here.
Not specifically, but yeah, I got the same general genre vibe.
i always think of pink floyd
At least a good thing is happening.
And so my respect for leslie falls into the blackened abyss of stench and decay hoping one day to be salvaged by her getting a b**** slap reality check on how immature she’s being. Something that I would not have a problem with were it not for the fact she’s probably the most mature of the entire staff.
She’s snuck a clause into a law Robin was trying to pass that would have forced them to make out and covered herself in chocolate to overwhelm Robin’s preferences and get some nookie. While disappointing this immaturity isn’t exactly surprising.
Ethan’s grouch face frightens me.
Ethan is really scary when he is determined like that… XD
Personally I am expecting the trend of the movies getting worse while making more money to continue. but good luck anyways
Eh, the second one was only so abysmal ‘cuz it was “written” during the writer’s strike. Even the negative reviews on RottenTomatoes already say that DOTM is way better than ROTF.
It lacks Megan “I-have-few-expressions” Fox. That alone has already improved it by about 75%. =D
Lets see you make more expressions with that much collagen injected into your face
You mean Megan “Insults-the-Franchise-during-the-media-blitz-because-I-apparently-don’t-know-who-pays-me” Fox?
A while ago some of my friends were whining about not getting to look at Megan Fox in this movie. One even went so far as to say he might not see it. Of course then I had to show him a pic of the new girl and he repealed his statement. Personally I could care less about any of the people. I just don’t understand how he could let the fake Parolee Pinup Barbie that is Megan Fox overshadow the shear awesome that is giant fighting robots. I mean come on, Megan Fox doesn’t even have her own toy line.
my former manager (he got transferred to another store) stated his only reason for watching the movies was Fox, and that he’d never see the third. idk if he still feels that way though
Leslie is PERFECTLY free to do whatever (whoever) she wants. That having been said, I am disappoint girl. This is a bad decision, and you will feel bad. Try being single for a while or screw someone who isn’t trying to get revenge (for some reason) on someone you love instead. Just ugh.
Still not sure why people think this thing with Malaya being after Les is to piss of Robin. She was after Les before she ever met Robin. And as for the hostility towards her when she did meet her, think of the context of that meeting. This comic would be pretty much my take on Robin too
http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/02-the-new-girl/deserve-2/
Ummm, nope, Malaya met Robin first and went after Les simply to piss off Robin.
/
Debatable. Unless Malaya’s a lot more of a chessmaster than a lot of us give her credit for – I honestly believe that she’s too lazy and dismissive to have done any research on anyone before being introduced to them – she’s beaming at Leslie like a puppy two panels before she finds out that Leslie and Robin used to be an item, and her response is “She likes girls?” not “She dated Robin?”
Malaya doesn’t like Robin, and she’s in major need of an attitude adjustment… but honestly, I can’t say I blame her for reacting the way she does to having Leslie’s ex hanging around watching them and threatening Malaya the first chance she gets her alone. Robin is acting every inch the creepy possessive ex, and Malaya is under no obligation to roll over and let Robin have her way.
I’m… actually feeling kind of sorry for Malaya here. Sure, the girl has her faults, but I wouldn’t say that means she deserves to be caught between Leslie and Robin like this.
Oh, she has quite willingly jumped between them IMO.
It’s not what I’d call an informed decision, though. There’s a difference between a)flirting with an attractive, single person and refusing to get scared off when their ex gets possessive and b)being the rebound for someone who is still obsessed with their ex, while said ex is willing to use all of their super-human ability to ruin you and win them back. Malaya doesn’t know enough about the big picture for me to really feel comfortable saying she’s brought this on herself.
Malaya as the ‘meat’ in a Leslie and Robin sandwich? Works for me.
I hate you so much DW, I have to wait 3 more days….
Hmmm… I know where that theater is. Shall I go Willis watching?
WHOAH, they made a “Dark Side of the Moon” movie?
Awesome! I can’t believe Pink Floyd signed off on that, I can’t wait to– Wait, what? Transformers 3? That does seem a lot more plausible. Sigh.
Don’t do it, Leslie. She’s pure evil.
It looks to me kinda like Snkrs is the one talking in panel 2, and Amber’s only mildly surprised by this.
Actually, I think I like reading it that way.
I totally didn’t notice until I looked at the tags that the hamster was still on her head.
Amber, just nod and say yes…when Ethan makes that face you know the only answer is to just nod and smile.
..do not contradict the Ethan Face. He will eat you. (And not in a sexy way)
So she breaks up with her girlfriend. That’s fine, she had a good reason. But then she gets back with her long enough to sleep with her, and then dumps her immediately after, while telling her she still loves her (a huge break-up no-no), and then tries to make out with ANOTHER girl a few hours later? That’s seriously impressive douchebaggery there, Leslie. Seriously impressive.
Er, yes, if by “gets back with her long enough to sleep with her, and then dumps her immediately after” you mean “is seduced when Robin shows up in the middle of the work day in what amounts to fetish gear for these two and proceeds to strip when Leslie tries to object, and then realizes the enormity of her mistake immediately after.”
I mean, Leslie’s not on her best behavior here, but she’s hardly the only one at fault in this clusterfuck.
Probably still less douchebaggey than the original competition between Malaya and Robin over Leslie was.
Transformers…
Hope you like it more than the Daily Mash guys did.
)
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/transformers-film-somehow-makes-giant-robots-uninteresting-201106284003/
Heres to more focus on the Transformers, and hopefully (for me anyways) to them not being so damn flippity. They’re giant freaking robots! Not gymnasts on crack!
=P I’m going to see it before Eathan. 8 P.M> on the Easy coast. =P
Well, this will end poorly for Leslie. Granted Robin didn’t help matters, but now Leslie’s rushing head long into her own destruction.
Wow, really? Revenge dating Leslie, you have whatever Robin dishes out to you and Malaya.
Transformers 3? Really, Ethan? Really Willis? I don’t even know where to begin. I don’t know what kind of Stockholm-esque, battered-spouse-esque phenomenon is going on with Transformers fans. I mean, at least batman fans learned from their mistake in seeing Batman Forever, and had the good sense not to go see Batman and Robin afterwards. You guys watch RotF, something infinitely worse then either of the Schumacher Batman films, and then line up to buy imax-3d tickets for another bayformer film, in the hope that it will somehow magically be better?
Like he’s going to respect you this time? Like he’s going to lay off the booze? Like he’s not going to beat you any more, this time he’s really changing? Girl, you’ve got to get out of that abusive relationship. Learn to respect yourself – have faith that your license is worth something. You’ll find another movie franchise, you don’t need that douche. Batman got out of her abusive relationship, and look who she’s with now! Airbender left her man, and she’s doing fine on her own with a new TV series in 2012. You’ve still got your family with Hasbro on the Hub.
This made me chuckle. I applaud you, sir or madam.
Some people just like really shitty, awful movies filled with indecipherable cgi, shoddy camerawork, and offhanded racism.
Actually Airbender might still be stuck in her abusive relationship. They’re still in talks about doing a sequel film. {:-( Poor Airbender… no one deserves that black eye…
If Transformers 3 is HALF as good as Transformers 2, it will still be the third best movie in history, after Transformers and Transformers 2.
Of course, it’s already lost points for taking out Mudflap and Skids, if that was true. I only bought 4 Revenge of the Fallen toys. Soundwave and Ravage (Soundwave having always been my favorite character) and the Twins, being the most interesting characters in the Bayformer films.
oh look, trolling
how droll
or did you… actually mean that
gosh, how unfortunate for you
Sarcasm isn’t necessarily trolling. It’s only trolling if it’s to get people riled up, not make them laugh.
Math time! If TF3 is 1/2 as good as TF2 then…
TF2 = 0 good.
TF3= 0/2… TF3 will be exactly as good?
Strangely this will also be true if TF3 is twice as good. Or even 50 times as good. Or a power of 100 better.
anyone else here counting down the hours till DOTM since ROTF’s premiere, or was it just me?
I just want to know when Michael Bay will start making My Little Pony movies.
Forget MLP, what Michael Bay’s next toy movie needs to be is JEM! His directing style is already truly outrageous.
outrageous
Michael Bay Presents:
Aquaman: The Motion Picture?!?!?!?!?!?
But…but ponies!
It’d be an adaptation of the Cupcakes fanfic.
I have to wait a day. Tomorrow at 6:30 imax 3D. This way I can be sure it will be great because even if it turns out to be a huge letdown anything in imax 3D is worth the money. I would watch the price is right on imax if I could.
Leslie Leslie Leslie… you make me sad. I hope you find out what its like to be manipulated by the self centered uncaring bitch. Perhaps then you can see the self centered but occasionally self destructive wonderful girl you had was in fact better for you. Or that you have weird fucking taste in girls in general.
“Doing Inventory,” right Leslie.
More like Inventory was doing you!
(The Inventory is Robin’s penis.)
Something seems off about that comment, but I can’t put my finger on it…
It’s Robin’s penis
You are trying to put your finger on Robin’s penis
Seein’ it tonight on Imax?
My envy, sir.
It burns with the strength of a thousand suns.
Be in reciept of it all.
You know, after this strip… I’ve considered something. There’s only one other person in the store that this can further involve who isn’t in a relationship. The comparisons between robin and malaya show robin to be the better of the two… and when you consider the sex tape… I think this is going to end with robin in a relationship *even if it’s brief* with Ken and Malaya and Leslie miserable because of their own demons.
Ken seems to follow robin’s crazyness to some extent, instead of going ‘wtf’ to her roadrunner analogy, he followed it and even asked the burning question without BSOD. Since Leslie’s already said her say on things and is going to do something she knows robin is going to see… I think Robin’s going to go for the one person who’s already told her malaya’s made his life miserable and do what she can to fix that.
FIRE ALARM FAAAACE.
OOOOH LESLIE YOU PLAYA!
I always wonder how anyone can still be excited by the prospect of another Michael Bay Transformers movie. I was annoyed by the “comedy relief” in the first one, and then the second one was awful in every way possible. The trailer for the new one looks awesome, but then I just KNOW we’ll be “treated” to more “comedy.”
Ahem, sorry, rant over.
I’m surprised at Leslie. Malaya is flat out horrible. She makes Faz look less obnoxious by comparison.
I’m going to go see it on Saturday. Sadly it will be in 3D. Goddamn it.
We call it 3D because it costs you 3 more Dollars! Yaaaaayyyyy!!1
…Wow, Leslie seriously got over Robin rather quickly. I mean, its immediately after the last strip she wants to make out with Malaya? I wonder if she’s seriously interested in Malaya or just using her as a rebound.
And I’m surprised that Ethan got a ticket for Malaya considering how dismissive she is about the franchise. I guess he’s trying to convert her or something? (Yeah, I don’t recommend trying to do that with a Bay film…)
I’m going to be skipping the Transformers 3 flick myself. I got burned twice by the previous two films, and I’m not going to dish out money for a third. The first one was decent, but I didn’t like it that much. The second one was terrible in my personal opinion. Bay’s films honestly feel like an abusive boyfriend. You know that he’s no good for you and that you’re going to end up either angry or depressed. You know that its just going to be one bad, offensive and plot-hole situation after another. And after every time, you walk out while swearing “I’m never going back to him”. But then he shows up with a new movie that looks so cool, and he swears to you “Don’t worry baby, it’ll be different this time! I’ll treat you right!”. And then the cycle starts up all over again.
Well, sorry gang, not again. I’ll wait until it’s on netflicks.
What makes you think she’s over Robin?
Well, I don’t mean “over” in the complete and total “I don’t love them anymore” manner, but over Robin enough to attempt to pursue some kind of relationship (whether it just be make-outs) with another woman so quickly. Most people don’t rush into make-outs with another person immediately after walking away from the person you loved for several years.
I’m just going to put this out there:
Rebound.
Wow, Leslie. Just wow. I would never have expected such a douchebag move from you.
LMK if they explain why Sam and Mikaela’s characters broke up. I remember Sam tricking her into saying “I love you” to be a major plot point of ROTF. I also noticed the “Megan Fox leg humping robot” in the trailers, why isn’t he with Mikaela if the two split up?
I’m seein it with my dad, gonna make it a hat trick..
s’funny, after RotF he was like “welll it’s not something I would’ve seen on my own..” but DURING it, he was pointing out and identifying every milit’ry vehicle.. having a blast.
I’m watching it at midnight since my cousin doesn’t get out of work til like 10:30ish. Also if I still had a job I would pull the Fire Alarm to go watch it too. Actually if I still had a job I already would have watched the movie since I used to work at a movie theater that had special screenings of movies early for the press and my coworker always got me in. I miss those times.
Just wanted to say, that as a 41 year old woman, I laughed at the scrotum scene in ROTF. So did my 43 year old girlfriend who was watching the movie at the theater with me.
And jeebus. It’s Transformers, not Shakespeare. Go write your own fanfic if you want to ride the angstmobile.
A bunch of small Decepticons combined into a big one. You’d think this would make it really powerful right? No, not really as the Autobots just hid underneath its ridiculous girth. But hey, it has a giant vacuum eating attack, that’ll probably do some damage if it connects right? Ooo, an Autobot got sucked directly into the horrible tooth filled buzzsaw mouth, he’s a goner. And… nope he killed it after directly falling victim to its most powerful and direct attack. Dumbest movie I’ve seen in a great while.
Leslie is an idiot and I have no more tolerance for her.
Whelp. I no longer like anybody involved in this romance plot. Everyone’s just… stupid. Driving me crazy.
Best of luck, Leslie. Remember that you wanted this.
Not happy about this at all. Though I have to think this is the only possible way to get Malaya to even consider seeing the movie.
I was about to say that for some reason Leslie looks a million times prettier then usual in panel six, then I noticed that it was because she actually had proper eyes for the first time…
What do you know, your comic from waaaay back in 2007 turned out to be true. Transformers movies now could be called “Buckets of Blood”.Or “Buckets of Energon”, rather. If someone told me back then that Optimus Prime would be responsible for spilling most of it, I’d have laughed, saying that’s Grimlock’s job. Sigh…
Lol I love spite dates there so much fun.
Lol I love spite dates.
I love that eighth panel silhouette there. Really accentuates that Leslie is making a very deliberate decision. And very good pacing in a comic otherwise already full of plot.
So that’s what they’re calling it now.