The Singularikitty is the horrific offspring of Choo-Choo Bear of Something*Positive and Sprinkles of Girls With Slingshots.
I kind of want to see if the Singularikitty can absorb Robin from the inside out.
Yes yes YES. It would truly be a battle for the ages.
Yeah… this is gonna end well.
Someone get the popcorn. Hilarity is about to ensue.
Throw Sergeant Schlock into the mix and they’ll spawn a black hole.
Point for Drew.
“You of all people” is one of those weird almost-insults. Like, “How DARE it be true!”
I remember when I identified as bi I used to think how Leslie did “I might date a guy or two, but I’ll probably marry a woman.” Then I realised that was full of crap and I was straight, which is how I knew I was going to end up in a hetero marriage.
… Bwuh? I’m not sure I get your reasoning. You figured you’d marry a woman, therefore your same-sex leanings automatically don’t count at all?
Pretty sure that’s not how it works, man.
He means that if you can’t see yourself marry a guy, you’re probably not all that gay.
“Homosexual but heteroromantic” is how I’ve heard it described– distinguishing between things that are fun and things you can fall in love with.
Quoting the original poster: “That’s how I knew I was straight”. Hate to break it to you, but if you could “see yourself dating a guy or two”, you’re probably not that straight, regardless of whether your interest is romantic or purely physical.
Just realised I paraphrased rather than quoted the original poster, but I maintain that my point still stands.
I’d say that at that point you should just drop either label and just do what you want, who you want and be free. Or if it suits you better angst about identity since it helps you have more in common with everybody
I think I’m going to like this storyline
i’d pay to see that.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled Robin DeSanto.
Can I say I never liked Leslie? Is that okay?
Her character always seemed to me like a joke that went too far; a Cerberus syndrome character arc. And this is made worse by how unsatisfying Robin’s sudden sexuality-turn was handled.
Drew’s cool though. Kinda wish Ethan got to date that Bruce-Wayne-ish guy at least once. But Drew’s still cool as a “straight” man to Ethan’s antics, no pun intended.
Sudden sexuality turn? Am I the only one who thought Robin’s attraction to Amber was pretty obvious?
It was hardly a sudden sexual turn.
Leslie was a character for almost two years (I think) before her and Robin entered a full blown relationship.
And it was made clear that Robin had a certain same-sex crush long before that.
I always thought that Robin’s “sexuality-turn” was very satisfying.
The soul searching and introspection Robin went through was very organic and human. Even though she was talking to a dead Republican the whole time.
I think it was one of the most endearing and well written story lines so far.
Agreed. It stands out as one of my most favorite Shortpacked! story arcs. Regan’s “The way things are” monologue stands out as some truly great writing.
Reagan’s speech was a high point. I golf clapped in my cubicle after reading it.
I miss Ronnie…
Sometimes people are after all okay with the idea of other people being gay/bi/pan/whatever but aren’t so good at accepting -they- might be for that matter. It sounds like a bad or weird attitude but it does happen. After all, in secondary school I think a lot of girls had ‘twinges’ here and there but are more or less straight now we’ve left school for a few years. Another guy who became ‘fire and brimstone’ AFTER school (despite being a fun guy in school) eventually a year or two later came out and became the happy guy he was again.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Robin heard the idea of ‘twinges’ for the same sex during school as being normal (it is) and just not thinking too much on it even though they continued in some form at a higher level much later on than it would for the conventiental ‘straight person with fair game celeb exceptions’. She defaulted to the idea of a guy and fixated on Ethan.
What’s a twinge? I’m familiar with the idea of straight kids in puberty having sexual attractions they don’t in later life, but the word “twinge” sounds made up.
“*Cerberus* syndrome” would be when everything’s light and fluffy until someone gets eaten by a three-headed dog.
Drancron just won with spelling.
You can say it, you’re just a fool for doing so.
Really now? I can’t dislike ONE character in a huge cast? Is that really so outrageous?
(Okay, I don’t really like Mike either, so that’s two. But still, there’s plenty of love to go around.)
Don’t feel bad, we still like you! We just think your wrong. Really, really wrong.
Oh, it’s not your disliking the character that makes you foolish, it’s the reason.
I think of her as a cardboard cutout. Don’t mind her but she just doesn’t seem fully “real” compared to most other characters.
Of course being call “my lesbian” (generic, 1 each) for quite awhile was part of that.
who needs love when you can have Robin?
I really like Leslie’s expression in the last panel. “That’s dumb as hell, and I love her for it.”
Is Ethan full on gay or bi like Drew? He seemed to enjoy all the Conquest sex at the time.
Pretty sure he’s fully gay. The Conquest thing was about the promotion. Remember later when he was told to impregante her as “The Ethan”, he wouldn’t. He even said it was because he was gay.
And to add while he did enjoy sleeping with Conquest a certain revelation sort of ruined that for him.
Yep, she’s a keeper.
At first I mistook singularikitty for a piggy bank.
Awkward homosexuals awkwardly discussing homosexuality. Is this what actual homosexuals talk about? I would think they could talk about sci-fi or something.
I actually have a friend who goes out of his way to NOT get into the ‘typical discussions’ … but that’s mostly because he’s just a private person.
Yes they do. They’re still figuring out things just like the straights.
Conversations like this will happen until someone creates a perfect manual for human relationships and sexuality, and until society as a whole gets a grip.
Until then we’re all flying by the seat of our pants. Sometimes without pants.
“Until then we’re all flying by the seat of our pants. Sometimes without pants.”
You know that covers most of the human race’s behaviour. Especially government.
Yes, they do. Just like how straight people need to talk about their interpersonal relationship, gay people do too at times. And being gay often comes with a lot of baggage for a lot of people, and there times where they need to talk about it.
Leslie for example has a failed marriage under her belt and possibly lost her family ties because of being gay. There are times where those issues come to mind. And if you have someone who has gone through a similar experience or at least have someone who can be sympathetic to how your feeling like Drew is… Alas just like any personal issue though, it can be awkward to discuss.
I can’t speak for everyone, but on the basis of my own experience it happens a lot and if you know someone long enough this conversation is bound to have occurred at one point between someone gay and bi (or pan in my case), the general response is Drew’s to it.
In a way I am luckier though, even if I can’t control who I’d fall for and still might fall for a girl or an opne trans and have to deal with the parents response (I am out to no-one I am genetically related to though my sister is the only one I’d feel confident enough to do so but there’s no rush). There’s still a CHANCE I’ll fall for a cis guy and have the ‘conventional’ relationship and even people generally uncomfortable with gay relationships or trans issues probably keep that in mind. When you tell people you either like both or don’t care for gender people in my experience have mostly made the off-hand joke about not falling for them but that was more or less it but there’s still a ‘chance’ at a conventiential het relationship and being accepted in some form and shit may only hit the fan for real if you bring home that person of the same gender. There’s more stigma being gay in general. It’s also easier to hide if you’re bi etc.
Granted, at least less people tell gay people they don’t exist. Though I guess we all have to deal with the promiscus idea in some form from someone. But then people who decide they don’t have to wait for marriage and are straight ALSO have to deal with that dumb stuff from someone.
That is something I never understood: Why is promiscuity seen as a bad thing?
IMO as long as it is consensual sex between adults there is nothing wrong with it. Of course I assume that the affairs (pun intended) are handled maturely and responsibly, by which I mean both partners are honest about it and take care when it comes to contraception and protection.
As long as it does not hurt anyone, it´s a-OK!
PS: I am not implying that homo- or bisexuals are inherently any more or less promiscuous than anyone else. Just saying that promiscuity (regardless of sexual orientation) is not inherently bad.
My sentiments about promiscuity exactly. Most complaints about it come across as “How dare you have more sex than I do.” Well, it’s because they can, if they’re doing it safely and thoughtfully.
As for the conversation, not only is it rather standard, but what a great point Drew scores about bisexuality in the face of Leslie’s comment. That’s the sort of ignorant nonsense that gets thrown in our faces a lot, and not as politely phrased a lot of the time, either. It’s a stereotype, and it needs breaking. Drew did a damn good job of it, too.
I guess so, but sometimes it does seem like some people think that a happy healthy monogamous relationship is apparently impossible unless you’re following the rules of baby Jesus to the letter (but… once again even het marriages- if say just ONE of pair involved isn’t kissing baby Jesus butt hard enough you get that sort of thing). Plus it gets annoying the idea that you can’t be committed otherwise. Plus of course I guess I misused the word and should have been more about ‘cheating’ rather than the other form where you’re single like your example- my bad.
Because for a lot of people, it is. Leaving aside STIs and unplanned pregnancies, because nowadays we do have ways of reducing those risks, for plenty of people sex has to happen within the context of a monogamous relationship or it leads to heartache for all those involved. I don’t think it’s fair to say those people just have hang-ups they can’t get past; In some (maybe most?) folks’ experience it is impossible to do sex without emotional entanglement, so promiscuity always leads to someone feeling bad in the long or short term. So they make a judgment about right and wrong based on their own experience.
[quote]for plenty of people sex has to happen within the context of a monogamous relationship or it leads to heartache for all those involved[/quote]
So what? They get to impose their own emotional needs in form of arbitrary, oppressive and insulting moral judgements on others, who do not share these needs?
I understand that many people do not like this kind of intimacy outside of a monogamous relationship, and I think that is fine.
But others do not share this reservation, and why should they be looked down upon?
Yes, there is risk in promiscuity, just as there is in all other aspects of life. Unwanted pregnancies, STDs, broken hearts etc. are all bad things. But this is where responsibility and a mature conduct come into play to minimise these risks, just like in every other aspect of life as well.
Do you know how many girl´s I did not get to sleep with, just because I stated up front that I´m not looking for a relationship with them?
I could have lied, enjoyed the sex and then not call again, but I take more responsibilty about my actions than that.
This is an attempt to reply to WorkbenchManiac’s reply to Steve C’s post, but there was no reply link there, so the chaining will look all wrong.
They’re looking down on someone with different values than them… which isn’t great, but it’s not that dissimilar from where your line of thought could go with regard to them. Understand that each does what makes them happy and that “different” invariably ends up judged by one’s standards… them to you as much as you to them.
And as to what you said here:
“Do you know how many girl´s I did not get to sleep with, just because I stated up front that I´m not looking for a relationship with them?
I could have lied, enjoyed the sex and then not call again, but I take more responsibilty about my actions than that.”
I can respect that. You were up front with them so that they did not take actions while being mislead as to your intentions.
You’re quite right, that promiscuity works for some people and it’s pretty uncool to look down on them for that, but distinguishing between “right for you” and “right” is a level of ethical enlightenment that most people haven’t necessarily achieved.
People make judgments based on their experiences, and use those to generalize about the world. Your question was “why is promiscuity seen as a bad thing” and that’s the answer.
Well, from a evolutionary point of view:
Major reason for seeing it as “bad”:
Since primate infants tend to have a long relatively helpless stage they tend to survive in greater numbers if they are protected. Primate females also tend to have fairly arduous pregnancies.
Since birth control is a relatively recent (a few thousand years at most) concept it is still being adapted to.
The chances of a human having successful offspring (living long enough to have offspring themselves) goes up if birth (and offspring) are considered a major event by more than just the mother. I.e. If the “tribe” doesn’t make sure that “dad” feeds his kids more of them die. The (pre technological) way to make sure is to make rules that say: Only one possible father.
That seems to be the constant in “western” societies. Notably in societies that have communal child rearing promiscuity is pretty much a non issue.
The second reason for “bad”:
Umpteen diseases that spread through sexual contact. Until testing and / or cures came in (last 100 years) if you played around (on most continents) you got real nasty rotting diseases. Even an idiot could figure out chaste = much less rotting.
Once again, in the parts of the world that didn’t have VDs / STDs sex was way more open. European explores fixed that.
BTW, my own opinion is that sex is fun and as soon as VDs / STDs are stamped out I would have no real problem (if I could find nice ones) in having hundreds of participants. As it stands now, I tend to be a bit more restrained.
I’m Drew is so delightfully sweet in this comic for some reason. His smile in the first two panels just looked so simple and nice.
You know, with how confident Leslie has always been, it’s surprising to see these insights into he own issues. I mean, despite being in a happy relationship with Robin, she still wishes that she could have been straight or bi, to at least make her family happy. The fact she still vulnerable about her family is a nice and times unexpected thing.
As for Robin… doesn’t she taste enough pussy as it is? (Ouch, I winced at my own bad pun).
For me, one of the appealing things about Leslie is her strength despite her uncertainty.
There’s an “eating pussy” joke here somewhere, but god save me, I’m not going to make it.
It’s already been done.
I was just thinking the exact same thing. GET OUT OF MY HEAD, CHARLES!
I was starting to wonder how much longer the thread could go before someone made that point.
Put on your helmet then, Ian.
Drew’s right, even if you’re bi you can’t choose who you fall for.
So since singularikitty has eaten all the transformers, if Robin swallows it what kind of transformer will she become?
If it was EmoRobin, she’d become that crazy Arcee from the alternate comic line, the one where she was a transgendered Axe-Crazy loon. Someone TF-nerdier than me will probably remember the name of it.
Regular Robin will transform into that f’d-up transforming-boat-car the professor from Wacky Races drove.
This is the best answer.
One aims to please.
Robin will become a Ultra Pretender Turducken.
It’s what happens when you stuff a Robo-Chicken inside a Dynametal Duck inside of a Titanium Turkey.
(I honestly think I just won thread.)
i dont beleive you, those cant possibly be real.
No way, the Wacky Races reference already had this one locked up.
That blush is too cute.
With all the chat about straight, gay, and bi, it’s only a matter of time before the next label shows up: A! No, Ultra-car, I’m not looking at you. I think there’s already someone in the cast who is asexual, and that’s Mike. Clearly he’s had a history doing whatever it took to rile up the gang sexually, and it’s had no impact on him. True enough, he’s dating Amber, but she’s had to blackmail him to get that far, and little of what he’s done since then could be called reciprocation (at least of the sexual kind). I believe he’s just following the path of least resistance in regards to her.
I think he’s Jughead – not gay, not straight, certainly not bi. He just doesn’t care.
He is, as he’s stated before “Whatever you DON’T want me to be, baby”. *finger snaps*
It’s that sentiment that leads me to believe that while saying Mike is asexual is fundamentally true but whenever I think about him and what he does I can’t help but coin him as antisexual (I hope someone has a better term for it). He’s sexuality’s bad boy, he’s whatever you don’t want him to be.
So… is this Robin’s new campaign funding plan?
*Grabs popcorn* So Robin wants to get rid of the cat too?
Crap, double post.
Yea, this interface creates double posts more often than any other I know.
Drew’s beard really weirds me out, like a beard comb-over or something
I swear to god, if the next comic is NOT about Robin deep-throating that cat, I’ll quit this comic for a week.
A week, I tell you. A WEEK. That’s like sixteen years in internet time.
There’s a joke in there.
Something about 12-year-olds being legal age if it’s done on the internet?
Actually using ThatNickGuy’s math it would be 9 days.
I think the cat is more likely to be the one doing the swallowing.
So, is Robin offering to take $20 to swallow the cat in front of them, or is she offering to pay them to watch her swallow the cat?
Does this mean Drew gets to be on the cast page now?
Can I say I’ve always hated Singularity Kitty? Cats are awesome enough as it is, they don’t need to eat stupid things to be cool.
I’m starting to think singularikitty is like Faz. I have yet to see an expression other than: =3
Funnily enough, I’m not sure what to consider myself. I’m not really all that ‘sexual’. I’m more about relationships, and romance… In that way I actually consider guys and girls as equal relationship material, though do admit I find girls more ‘attractive’ than guys.
And i’m currently in a relationship with a guy… Which would be better if he was more attentive… @_@ So, Bi? Gay? Straight? Pansexual just for this one guy?
I love that friggin cat.
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