Oh I dare say this all explains quite a lot about his personality…! As I said before the implication here could be that not only does he have a philanderer for a father but some sort of mafia ‘involved’ mother!
All that said this does not stop me laughing my ass off when he said ‘space pirate’ at the end.
But this is why i’ve been reading these strips – the twists, turns and character development is fun! Feeling both a little more sympathy and being able to laugh at the dude is part of the goodness of the story and i suppose him becoming a bit more 3D
It’s been said before, but I’ll say it again–the lack of a male role model probably had something to do with his current mental state.
In the early days, he was a smug, scheming asshole so someone could screw him over (figuratively) and not feel guilty. It’s much harder when he’s not only a complete idiot but almost entirely ignorant of what he’s doing wrong. Yeah, he’s self-serving, but still…he’s so childlike! Lookatim! He really thinks his father is a space pirate! Would you be able to pull this off?
I remember back when Willis said how hard it could get to draw Faz in situations when he shouldn’t be smiling, since he must always be shown smiling. The ambiguous mouth angle here seems to be a good example of that. It still sort of looks like a smile even though it could be otherwise.
NO.NO.NO. Dammit Amber as his Possible older SISTER, it is your DUTY to destroy him. This has been the duty of older siblings since the dawn of time. DESTROY HIM!!! MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY, AND (Possibly) PHYSICALLY!!!!!!
Oh no. No… no no no.
After all this… you can’t make me start to feel sorry for Faz.
Since this comic started I’ve been able to hate Faz.
Now you’re making me feel like a dick.
How dare you.
Exactly. This is Faz. How many times has he taken action against the store? Harassed the female employees? Tried to ruin lives to make himself feel good? Amber, would you kindly wreck him.
It is a bit amusing to watch how every single time Faz speaks in the first person, there is at least one post like this. And since it’s not unusual for him to do it in at least one panel of any comic in which he’s got a speaking role, that means almost every appearance of Faz in recent months has one of these.
That’s kind of interesting, because in the first arc he appeared in Faz always used first person. I guess it’s been such a smooth transition that now we feel weirded out when its that way, even though the other way around should be the strange version.
You know, a while back I figured it was Roz that was socially awkward and acted one way because it generated attention. Apparently my analysis was misaimed. DAMN YOU WILLIS
Something else (please make it stop! willis you monster – oh ok dont, please keep it coming) just occurred to me…
Its not just his Father, the implications of this sorta mean that his mother is some sort of mafia crackwhore… thats a wholesome living unit right there…
blah blah blah, sympathy for the devil, yadda yadda, poor faz?
on an unrelated note Willis, The Daily Show and Colbert Report are in reruns this week while preparing for their week of shows in D.C. and their rally.
You people are just going to have to suffer through feeling sympathy for FAz.
It’s what comes of having all these complex feeeeeeeelings and complicated social dynamics.
Did we have to feel sympathy for the eclair monster? Nooooo!
Did we worry about what the hamsters were shooting with their blasters? Noooo!
Did we care if Ronnie was really Reagan? Uh, uhm… I’m not sure, memory not so good, probably not though.
It’s like Star Wars ™ : Perfectly good villain (EVIL scary) turns out to be some whiny teenager on life support who eventually ends up being an old guy on life support.
“Depth” pah! I don’t mind the drama tag. But the pathos machines need to go on mark down!
He goes into graphic detail of how he would sexually engage with people he has just met. He doesn’t even begin to understand “go away!”.
I wouldn’t hate him for that, but some folks would. I would try to avoid him.
And as far as that goes, I doubt most folks have kept track of his background. They just see him slime people.
Also keep in mind that when most folks on here say “hate” they mean “mild negative reaction” as in “I hate carrots” NOT hate as in “I will burn everyone he has ever met, slowly in front of him, in case he has even the slightest positive feelings towards any of them”. Like most short English words “hate” has many many meanings.
I know personally I don’t like Faz. Hate is too strong a word. There are just people in this world that generate empathy by default. Faz…Faz is not usually in this group.
… god dammit Willis now I’m feeling guilty. I don’t really hate Faz- he’s crazy and annoying but not outright evil (and is also hilarious.) But hell, I can sympathize.
Faz has obviously grown up in a highly dysfunctional family with no positive male role model. Hence, why he does not know how to properly talk to people.
And here I thought we’d only see Faz sad and sympathetic after Amber dropped the bomb, leaving her feeling regretful and responsible for her half brother who she hates forever.
Oh god, I have an RP character like this. Well, he’s nowhere near as generally eeuugghh as Faz, but he does act chauvinistic out of a subconscious and confused need to find a woman with whom he could start a family to replace the one he lost when he was very young. Now I might just have nightmares wherein my character talks and acts like Faz.
You know, I don’t feel that bad for Faz, but I can see why Amber would. I mean, she thinks he’s her brother. Even if he’s been a jackass, he’s suddenly family.
I’ll have compassion for Faz if and when he actually tries to overcome his upbringing; so long as he’s bound by it, I might pity him, but it would be foolish to actually give him a pass on his own anti-social behavior.
Besides, Amber revealing the truth to him might very well be the kick in the @$$ he needs to stop being… well, him. At the very least, even if he stays with the store staff somehow, he’d stop hitting on Amber (or, if he didn’t, would establish himself as completely irredeemable).
To be honest, I always a little badly for Faz. He always came off as too fucked up to know any better to me. Like a dog that will not stop humping your leg because his previous owners were college-aged douche-bags who thought it was funny and also fed him beer.
ALSO his mother might have been involved in the mob. Or maybe other family. May he was raised by a wishy-washy single mother who coddled him and let him get away with anything when she could be bothered to pay attention to him and by an explosively temperamental drunk uncle with mob connections that would beat his ass one day for something that his mom said was ok the day before.
I knew a guy who went bad because basically that. Does not mean I hung out with him or liked him or anything, but I did pity him.
Then again, maybe he was raised in a perfectly functional single-parent home or had a nifty step-dad. Hell if I know. Just throwing it out there.
Seriously, this is kind of interesting. Reading early Faz comics compared to how he is now, he must of really had some kind of decline in his life because he got so much more unstable and strange as the comic went on. Maybe we’ll see him end up taking a few steps back into being a normal character. Right now I can’t even hate him, because he’s clearly not right in the head, he’s gotten too extreme.
I was actually thinking Faz getting some character development would be interesting. I hope this goes somewhere, I said, having not read all the archives yet.
Uh-oh D= NO SECOND-GUESSING!!! STAY THE COURSE!!1
Great. We get a chance to shatter Faz, and he makes Amber guilty. DAMMIT, WILLIS.
Dangit.. now I feel sorry for Faz…. Hrm… :/
Dear God in Heaven above could I actually feel sympathy for the little tit??????
Because this might explain some of his personality?
Oh I dare say this all explains quite a lot about his personality…! As I said before the implication here could be that not only does he have a philanderer for a father but some sort of mafia ‘involved’ mother!
All that said this does not stop me laughing my ass off when he said ‘space pirate’ at the end.
But this is why i’ve been reading these strips – the twists, turns and character development is fun! Feeling both a little more sympathy and being able to laugh at the dude is part of the goodness of the story and i suppose him becoming a bit more 3D
And now I feel bad for Faz.
hear hear.
No! No sad Faz! Sad Faz is hard to hate and easy to sympathise with.
It’s been said before, but I’ll say it again–the lack of a male role model probably had something to do with his current mental state.
In the early days, he was a smug, scheming asshole so someone could screw him over (figuratively) and not feel guilty. It’s much harder when he’s not only a complete idiot but almost entirely ignorant of what he’s doing wrong. Yeah, he’s self-serving, but still…he’s so childlike! Lookatim! He really thinks his father is a space pirate! Would you be able to pull this off?
yes, but can you imagine what he’d be like if he DID have Amber’s dad as a role model?
Pat Lee?
You win.
I remember back when Willis said how hard it could get to draw Faz in situations when he shouldn’t be smiling, since he must always be shown smiling. The ambiguous mouth angle here seems to be a good example of that. It still sort of looks like a smile even though it could be otherwise.
Don’t flinch now Amber! Give him the father he’s always wanted!
And ruin his life at the same time!
It’s a win/win!
NO.NO.NO. Dammit Amber as his Possible older SISTER, it is your DUTY to destroy him. This has been the duty of older siblings since the dawn of time. DESTROY HIM!!! MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY, AND (Possibly) PHYSICALLY!!!!!!
Why did you do this? that’s not fair. please let me hate him!
No, Faz, you are not a Summers kid. Even on you, I wouldn’t wish that.
Nice.
Damn, beat me to it! But Faz is totally the fourth Summers brother.
Huh? I know of Scott and Alex. Who is the third?
The third, Gabriel, AKA Vulcan, was retconned in in 2006, in Deadly Genesis. He was a member of the X-Men between the originals and the All New All Different team.
I guess I was due for another reminder of why I stopped reading the X-books.
Amber don’t let him become human to you now!
Oh no. No… no no no.
After all this… you can’t make me start to feel sorry for Faz.
Since this comic started I’ve been able to hate Faz.
Now you’re making me feel like a dick.
How dare you.
Meh. Crush his soul please
Exactly. This is Faz. How many times has he taken action against the store? Harassed the female employees? Tried to ruin lives to make himself feel good? Amber, would you kindly wreck him.
new story idea: Amber adopts Faz out of crushing guilt, meaning Mike becomes his father
Mike: “I fuck your mom every night.”
Faz: “Faz would like to know the details.”
You fucking win at life.
Win++
also, space pirates are awesome.
Look at Twitter. Linkara feels sorry for Faz, too.
“Damn it, Willis, stop making me feel sympathy for the sociopath!”
http://twitter.com/Linkara19
Maybe it won’t shatter him? Maybe he can grow to see Amber as a sister and in the long run that may help him become more ‘adjusted’…
Look that the affect she’s had on Mike! hmmmm well i’m not so sure on that one…
HOLY CHEESE! Faz just spoke in the first person!
its like his worldview broke apart alittle right there in panel 5…
GAD…! MUST. STOP. FEEL. ING. THE. SYM. PA. THY…
Do people seriously not remember that Faz speaks in the first person, like, all the time?
Including his first appearance?
And in the first panel of this comic.
It is a bit amusing to watch how every single time Faz speaks in the first person, there is at least one post like this. And since it’s not unusual for him to do it in at least one panel of any comic in which he’s got a speaking role, that means almost every appearance of Faz in recent months has one of these.
It’s sort of like Flanderization, except it seems to only occur in the fanbase, and not in canon.
That’s kind of interesting, because in the first arc he appeared in Faz always used first person. I guess it’s been such a smooth transition that now we feel weirded out when its that way, even though the other way around should be the strange version.
Ok, now I feel sorry for Faz…
CURSE YOU WILLISSSSSSSSSSS!
Oh my gosh, I just want to hug him ;_;
Why feel sorry for Faz?
Crush him like a bug and laugh the whole time!
Then point at his tiny pee-pee.
That actually sounded like something Faz would say…
wow…the third panel is the first time Faz seemed…normal to me. Huh.
and by that, I meant fifth. Obviously.
Starslip reference?
You know, a while back I figured it was Roz that was socially awkward and acted one way because it generated attention. Apparently my analysis was misaimed. DAMN YOU WILLIS
Something else (please make it stop! willis you monster – oh ok dont, please keep it coming) just occurred to me…
Its not just his Father, the implications of this sorta mean that his mother is some sort of mafia crackwhore… thats a wholesome living unit right there…
blah blah blah, sympathy for the devil, yadda yadda, poor faz?
on an unrelated note Willis, The Daily Show and Colbert Report are in reruns this week while preparing for their week of shows in D.C. and their rally.
You people are just going to have to suffer through feeling sympathy for FAz.
It’s what comes of having all these complex feeeeeeeelings and complicated social dynamics.
Did we have to feel sympathy for the eclair monster? Nooooo!
Did we worry about what the hamsters were shooting with their blasters? Noooo!
Did we care if Ronnie was really Reagan? Uh, uhm… I’m not sure, memory not so good, probably not though.
It’s like Star Wars ™ : Perfectly good villain (EVIL scary) turns out to be some whiny teenager on life support who eventually ends up being an old guy on life support.
“Depth” pah! I don’t mind the drama tag. But the pathos machines need to go on mark down!
That being said: Quite a good job to make Faz sympathetic, most impressive.
We all wish our Fathers were space pirates.
Meh. My Dad was the Beatnik candidate for POTUS. That’s as awesome as a Space Pirate, any day.
>no father
>grew up with a crack whore mother
>probably abusive parents
Apart from being told “YOU MUST HATE FAZ” why do you people actually hate Faz?
He goes into graphic detail of how he would sexually engage with people he has just met. He doesn’t even begin to understand “go away!”.
I wouldn’t hate him for that, but some folks would. I would try to avoid him.
And as far as that goes, I doubt most folks have kept track of his background. They just see him slime people.
Also keep in mind that when most folks on here say “hate” they mean “mild negative reaction” as in “I hate carrots” NOT hate as in “I will burn everyone he has ever met, slowly in front of him, in case he has even the slightest positive feelings towards any of them”. Like most short English words “hate” has many many meanings.
I know personally I don’t like Faz. Hate is too strong a word. There are just people in this world that generate empathy by default. Faz…Faz is not usually in this group.
Because only the first one is something we actually know, and we just now found out about it?
The only things we “know” about his mother come from Amber’s mom and shouldn’t be trusted. And the last one you even admit is a guess.
Because he is FAZ!!!!!!
OMG, you just made me feel sympathy for Faz.
Mr. Willis, you, sir are A MONSTER!!!
Now I am wondering if Faz acts the way he does because he wants attention O.o
“Faz is popular amongst his peers.” This actually makes a lot of sense.
Aaaw poor Faz. Even irritating twits can miss having a dad.
Willis, you diabolical bastard.
Uh oh, I can see where this is going:
Faz thinks his father is a space pirate
Rick over hears that
Rick now destroys Faz for being a Pirate, the Ninja’s arch nemesis
lol, nice
Error Error! Pull up! Repeat: Pull up! You are veering off course! You kamikaze into that damned jackass Faz and you do it now, girl!
… god dammit Willis now I’m feeling guilty. I don’t really hate Faz- he’s crazy and annoying but not outright evil (and is also hilarious.) But hell, I can sympathize.
And that’s bad.
Why are you people all weepy for Faz? Bad people are bad and they should feel bad.
Amber in panel four makes me happy.
Wouldn’t it be funny, if after all this, it turns out that they aren’t actually related.
Cue the disembodied bum to crap on Faz in three… two…
…what? It was an obvious Cyclops/Corsair reference.
No. I will not feel sympathy for Faz. I would sooner poke my own eyes out with my cake fork.
I WILL DO IT.
Faz has obviously grown up in a highly dysfunctional family with no positive male role model. Hence, why he does not know how to properly talk to people.
Wait, Faz is Cyclops?
That’s what I said a few posts up. Though specifically he’s the Cyclops from Xmen 3.
And here I thought we’d only see Faz sad and sympathetic after Amber dropped the bomb, leaving her feeling regretful and responsible for her half brother who she hates forever.
Awwwww.
This is like S*P’s “‘You were supposed to redeem Carisma.’ – ‘Funny, I don’t remember promising that.’”
Here it’s just “You are not not supposed to redeem Faz.”
Is it weird that I want to give Faz a hug right now?
Much less than my urge to hit him with a small club.
I don’t like feeling guilty
. So I have an urge to hit things that make me feel guilty. I control it, mostly
.
I don’t feel guilty very often though. At least not much.
So this may explain why Faz acts like such a dick. It does not excuse the behavior. Go Lawsome on his ass, Amber.
Mike totally planned this all along.
Yep, I got that too.
Amber, harden your heart! For the greater good, Faz must be fired!
Screw sympathy. With all his shit over the years Faz earning it like that smells of cop-out to return to status quo.
Oh god, I have an RP character like this. Well, he’s nowhere near as generally eeuugghh as Faz, but he does act chauvinistic out of a subconscious and confused need to find a woman with whom he could start a family to replace the one he lost when he was very young. Now I might just have nightmares wherein my character talks and acts like Faz.
Awww The Faz had his feelings hurt. Amber tried to be like Mike but couldn’t. it’d takes a lot of courage and dedication to be like Mike
Your dad is a space pirate? Well my dad is an ice pirate and my mom is a space cowboy(girl). And they could both kick you dad’s ass.
You know, I don’t feel that bad for Faz, but I can see why Amber would. I mean, she thinks he’s her brother. Even if he’s been a jackass, he’s suddenly family.
My Faz-Just-Needs-A-Hug theory has been vindicated! But I am still sad.
CURSE YOU WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!
I’ll have compassion for Faz if and when he actually tries to overcome his upbringing; so long as he’s bound by it, I might pity him, but it would be foolish to actually give him a pass on his own anti-social behavior.
Besides, Amber revealing the truth to him might very well be the kick in the @$$ he needs to stop being… well, him. At the very least, even if he stays with the store staff somehow, he’d stop hitting on Amber (or, if he didn’t, would establish himself as completely irredeemable).
To be honest, I always a little badly for Faz. He always came off as too fucked up to know any better to me. Like a dog that will not stop humping your leg because his previous owners were college-aged douche-bags who thought it was funny and also fed him beer.
So Faz didn’t have a daddy? Big whoop. Thousands of people didn’t have dads and they’re still well adjusted. It’ll take more than that for me to feel much in the way of sympathy. I still think she shouldn’t have stopped him in this strip.
http://www.shortpacked.com/2006/comic/book-3-is-totally-gay/05-iacon-one-sketches/eunuchs/
ALSO his mother might have been involved in the mob. Or maybe other family. May he was raised by a wishy-washy single mother who coddled him and let him get away with anything when she could be bothered to pay attention to him and by an explosively temperamental drunk uncle with mob connections that would beat his ass one day for something that his mom said was ok the day before.
I knew a guy who went bad because basically that. Does not mean I hung out with him or liked him or anything, but I did pity him.
Then again, maybe he was raised in a perfectly functional single-parent home or had a nifty step-dad. Hell if I know. Just throwing it out there.
Exactly my point.
You interrrupted my ability to hate Faz and take joy at his downfall! DAMN YOU WILLIS
Well, despite it all, he is STILL the envy of Fox News…
Faz thinks he’s the other Summers brother?
너무 슬프다
“Naw-moo Suhl-P’uh-da”
More sadness/angst?
Seriously, this is kind of interesting. Reading early Faz comics compared to how he is now, he must of really had some kind of decline in his life because he got so much more unstable and strange as the comic went on. Maybe we’ll see him end up taking a few steps back into being a normal character. Right now I can’t even hate him, because he’s clearly not right in the head, he’s gotten too extreme.
Maybe it’s conditioning, but when he said space pirate, my mind jumped to Faz being raised by Ridley.
Space pirate? So, Faz’s Father is Atomisk? (Anyone who get’s that ref…awesomesauce)
Aww! first time I feel sorry for Faz.
Well crap. In my wishing that Faz had never had a father so that this could be worth it, I forgot that Faz didn’t have a father.
I was actually thinking Faz getting some character development would be interesting. I hope this goes somewhere, I said, having not read all the archives yet.