Dayum! I love Amber.
More like AMBER PAWNCH!! Yes?
In the FAAAAACE!!
Mike has had that coming for a while…. but Amber has had a lot of unresolved issues.
I agree, and I don’t see this ending well for her. o_o;
I love Amber. She’s gone from shy shut-in to punching people in the face!
As long as she doesn’t turn it into a habit.
Maybe she can punch Faz and possibly Robin if she starts acting horrible again. Those scenarios seem find.
Or maybe I’m a horrible person.
… Was there a time that Robin wasn’t acting horrible? I’m stuck on that whole “if” business.
I dunno about robin, she’s hyper, but she means well. Faz, on the other hand, can get punched in the face repeatedly. Until, as Mike put it, punching him would give him back more of his own blood than he already has.
Meh, Mike’s just gonna pull an Emperor Palpatine and be all like, “Good! Your hate has made you powerful. Now, fulfill your destiny and take your father’s place.”
I think it’s too soon. Amber’s still feeling put out after being put out after putting out (heh) in the laundry room. Any comparison of what she’s been doing (blackmailing Mike into having sex with her) with what her father did to her would have her huddled up in a corner in ‘Poor Little Me’ mode.
She needs to be called out on what she’s been doing, and I’d prefer that it was Mike doing the calling instead of some non-entity like what happened to Ethan, but I just think it’s too soon.
I actually think Mike is going to react with surprise to this. He’s been pushing it ever since he slept with both Amber and Ethan just to fuck with them. There was literally no point to that. Now he’s “with Amber” just to show her that she’s pathetic?
Heheh, having read “It’s Walky”, I can assure you that, for Mike, beatings don’t matter all that much. :p He’ll probably just laugh maniacally and then provoke her into doing it again.
What amazes me is it’s taken him this long to get punched.
Actually Walky beat the living bejesus outta Mike at one point during It’s Walky.
Practically left him in a Coma. I think it was right after Dina died.
I’ll agree go Amber to an extent. Thing is, he probably got hit for being too close to the truth.
I posted this link years ago to impress David, but now art imitates art imitates art imitates art forever…
Mike’s hair continues to bend space and time, even through the shirt.
That was…kinda dark, actually.
Mike avoids looking at himself by making other people look at themselves instead.
Amber avoids looking at herself by punching people in the face.
I love this comment.
Some uncomfortable truths in what Mike said but I like where this is going. Can’t say I blame her for decking him, either. Serious talk time, ruh roh.
Awww, why did you have to draw pants on him?
I also am sad about this
He hit a nerve, now what?
I am torn between appreciation for Mike being punched in the face, because really if it were up to me “gets punched in the face” would probably be all he ever did in the comic from now on, and a degree of annoyance that it seems to be happening not so much as a deserved punishment for his assholery and more just because he said something that’s probably true.
Last balloon is actually supposed to read “You found a guy who’s a t-shirt ninja like Greg Dean“
Oh, yeah. Let the hate consume you. Mike’s about to turn a Palpatine.
I can’t believe people are cheering Amber on.
Yes, Mike probably deserves a punch or two, but Amber isn’t really being the better person in this case. She freakin blackmail raped him after all.
Yes, but Mike isn’t as likeable. At least that’s my reasoning.
We’re fans, we can ignore all the horrible things our favourite characters do.
Just look at politics in pretty much any country.
What you said reminds me of a statistic I read a couple years ago. Basically, it was that juries are statistically more likely to find someone innocent if the jurors like the defendant, regardless of the evidence.
I don’t really find Amber likable at all either, honestly. Mike, at least, has never been treated as a realistic character; he’s never been written as a real ‘human,’ just that ‘asshole force of nature.’ He’s hyperbolic and unbelievable.
Amber, on the other hand, has always been represented as a very human character, with feelings and layers and anxieties. And in recent times she’s become a terrible and unstable asshole.
Since the Manhattan comic, I have wondered what Mike’s goal was in going along with this. I do believe that if he hadn’t wanted to go along with any of this he could have done something about it. Mike isn’t shy or meek. Not that I’m defending the blackmail, but… like I said, I’m just wondering what he’s after. Maybe this is what he wants.
If Mike hadn’t wanted to be blackmailed, he could’ve found a way out of it. New haircut or not, he’d already shown he was able to play Amber pretty well at that point – the frame gags showed that right before she discovered the (conveniently exposed) shirts.
Plus, if we’re going into ‘is this rape?!’ territory, Robin and Leslie’s antics come a lot closer, and people were still cheering the two of them on up until Amber getting kicked out.
OK, I gotta ask. What part of “Robin and Leslie’s antics” = rape.
Oh, wait, you’re talking about the surprise kissing thing, aren’t you?
Sorry, but to me forced kissing, as bad(and creepy) as it is, doesn’t quite equal rape.
Just my opinion. Feel free to respond.
Woops, didn’t notice this before I responded. Yeah, surprise kissing is sexual assault, not rape, but I think the companionship / title part of the relationship was the result of the blackmail, not the sex – which seems like it came about through mutual consent. (If Amber included that as part of the ‘boyfriend’ deal, then, yeah, it’d definitely be rape on her part.)
Admittedly, this’s all just interpretation on my part, though!
You both need to learn the definition of rape.
Well, sneaking into someone’s shower to grab and make out with them, and sneaking into someone’s bed and taking advantage of mistaken identity to grab and kiss them both seem more rape-esque then blackmailing someone into going on dates with you*. It’s sexual assault if nothing else.
*I’m guessing Mike would’ve stopped playing the ‘daddy issues’ card by now and gone with the much more vitriolic ‘lol rapist’ card if the blackmail included ‘HAVE MUCH HATESEX WITH ME’. Who knows, though.
The blackmail did include ‘HAVE MUCH HATESEX WITH ME’. I can’t find the specific strip right now, but shortly after this whole thing started, Amber pretty much dictated that they were going to have sex. Admittedly, the sex became consensual over time.
I will say that I’ve gotten into this “is it rape?” debate before, so I probable won’t drag this out in the comments to much more. Just call me a stupidhead if you disagree with me.
I know my own response was “Go Mike for calling her on her shit again!”
I think I like Mike most of all because I can’t stand the other characters. They’re all petty and often only portray one or two parts of their personality altogether too much without any further depth. Mike calls them out on it and one can at least admire his honesty.
Yes, dark! Awesome how this comic is both dark and, to most, has a punchline. Eh heh heh… “punch” line.
I’m excited to see what happens with Amber and Mike now. Perhaps… honesty… will happen?
Nah. Then there would be less plot.
Now officially my favorite Shortpacked! ever. Batman may breathe in space, and Roadblock may watch you sleep, but they do not have Mike gettin’ Biff!ed.
I have two responses to this that I can not decide between…so I’ll say both:
1) Ooh, she got him good, Blam Pow!
Now I’m wondering when Amber became so utterly unlikeable.
Probably around the time she decided that blackmail was an acceptable part of her “getting a boyfriend” repertoire. Go Mike! I’ve been waiting forever for the bitch to get a comeuppance!
Willis said there’d be a punch before this arc finished and he were right. Didn’t expect it so soon though.
On completely unrelated note, noticed Masterpiece King Grimlock variant on blog banner. Nice!
Does anyone think that Amber could hit ex super-spy-genetically-modified Mike without him wanting her to? And someone who can rip chunks of pavement up and grab people out of midair holding a cable is going to even feel it? If he does it is either a sham or a mistake.
I don’t think Amber became unlikeable! Just a strip or two ago she had the super-saddest face ever. Made my heart melt.
That’s likeability right there!
That’s manipulation. Also, sympathy and pity do not likability make.
Mike getting punched = Yay!
Mike getting punched for telling the truth =/= Yay!
I’m surprised no one took notice of the fact that Mike’s face is wrapped up in all mummy-like. An obvious reference to Amber’s crap-light, I mean, Twilight rip off with Greasers and Mummies. That’s a disturbing fantasy sex life they have going…
Frankly, while I’m glad Amber decked Mike, his analysis is 100% accurate, I think. There is nothing healthy about their relationship. While Amber may love Mike, blackmail and bribery is not the building blocks of a happy life.
No–before they did it in the laundry room, Amber said she didn’t want to see his face. That’s why his shirt is like that.
I find myself rather enjoying instances of Amber being unpleasantly reminded of what a manipulating bitch she’s being.
Woo! Kick some ass, Amber!
One punch! One punch!
T-shirt on the head”
Oh, that’s right – “but I don’t want to see your face…”
What a sudden show of strength! I’m glad Amber’s making progress, but I wonder how Mike will feel about this tomorrow. He wouldn’t hit her back, would he? That’d put Amber in the hospital for sure. But Mike probably wouldn’t make anything of it. He’s always played off Amber’s fears, maybe he’ll be glad to have some new material with this anger. Still, he probably won’t be happy, at least not outwardly. Mike never shows emotion, which is why it’s so shocking when Dina died- his facial expression kept me up many a night.
Are you people insane? Amber is the bad guy here. She’s forcing an asshole to be her boyfriend and is angered by said asshole acting like an asshole. This is not Amber showing strength, this is her showing how weak she really is. Also, Mike has super-strength, that punch probably hurt her more than it did him.
Mike is awesome to read because he’s brutally honest. Amber is a pain to read because she’s become a bitch.
I’m with you there. Everyone is talking about Mike being an asshole… but technically he’s less of an asshole than many in the comic–Faz might be annoying but he doesn’t deserve the pain or assault or abuse he gets from some of the cast. Seriously, aside from Amber making him cause physical pain to people, what has Mike said or done that hasn’t just been the truth? Kissing Ethan gave Robin and Ethan closure for better or worse… and everything he’s said to Amber has been right on the money.
What about the time he slept with Amber and Ethan, solely to pit them against one another? As far as I’m concerned, Mike can be as bad as everyone else there. But to say he’s less of an asshole than them is REALLY reaching.
Mike’s an ass, that’s all there is to his character, at first. Then, he began to hint at something beneath the surface, something nobody can ever see. He’s a mystery- a mystery wrapped up in an enigma, wrapped up in an alien-enhanced body. That’s what makes him so appealing, at least to my eye. You wonder about his motivations, his psyche, his alternate, drunker personality, about those two sides of his mind. And you wonder, maybe there’s a middle ground? Perhaps he’s pretty normal, somewhere underneath that same hairstyle?
Amber now, Amber’s the one you start out rooting for. You want her to gain confidence and you want her to be happy. Then, she starts gaining confidence- and with it, she displays some traits that you’d never have thought she’d have. But Amber has deep psychological problems, and these may be the cause of her combination pitifulness/anger at everyone. But she’s never known it any other way, and now she can actually DO things. She can make a way for herself in the world. So I say, go Amber! She’s made progress. She’s not perfect yet, and yeah, she’s still set to explode- but she’s got other outlets, now. She’s getting BETTER. That, to me, is all that matters.
So even if you despise Amber and you’re sick of taking abuse from Mike, you can console yourselves with the fact that they deserve each other.
If I knew how to put gifs in comments here, I would link the gif of the Citizen Kane clap. I agree with you completely.
My belief for mikes motives is he probably doesnt want another dead chick on his hands, however amber is being a pain.
in my opinion, Mike > Amber, but thats just me.
This is all cool and stuff but, can we put the drama tag back in now? Please?
Who went and pulled it out anyway?
Maybe it just fell out on its own, I don’t know . . .
Actually, robin pulled it out then the evil Martian overlord from an alternate dimension stole it, if I remember right…
Galasso(sp?) burned it in a fire if i’m not mistaken.
no that was the evil martian overlord that told her about it after she pulled it out
You guys are conflating Martians and Aliens. If the Martian overlord showed up at Shortpacked! the entire cast would be long dead.
wow, okay I did not see that one coming at all.
I think it is interesting that so many people like Amber even though she hit her boyfriend when they were having an argument. We usually call girls who act like that “whiskey tango” and make jokes when they are out of the office that they must be booked for Jerry Springer or that they are getting their hair “did.”
I would call Amber’s behavior character growth, but switching from being crippled socially because she is passive to being so aggressive that she risks ending her relationship, going to jail, and being sued. . . well, that’s just not good.
It would be funny if Mike did exactly that, but for whatever reason and this has never been explained well, Amber is able to reach through Mike’s evil, dark exterior – and the three underlying levels of darkness that should be referred to as “the taint” to Mike’s much hidden heart of gold – at least enough to get him to modify his behavior a bit. . . or whatever. Maybe he just really enjoys boning chubby nerd chicks or this is all a plot to devastate her that will soon come to fruition.
Mike is the most original character in this comic because he is so completely messed up and I think we all have a mean part of our conscious we often deny that is entertained by thinking about doing the kinds of things that Mike actually does. We’ve read these types of dark characters before and they always make the reader (and the writer) want to know WHY a character is such a prick. I’d love to know this, but I also think there is something special about the fact that we aren’t being told.
I don’t think she’s actually risking arrest or a lawsuit, given that it seems inherent to the setting that there are never any legal consequences for anything for the main characters. Various assaults, kidnappings, sword-stabbings, etc. happen without anyone going to jail.
This is part of why I continue to want to see Amber respond to her recent treatment by Robin and Leslie by delivering deserved ass-kickings to the both of them, since I wouldn’t expect her just calling the cops (as she’d be well within her rights to do) to be an available response Shortpacked!-world.
I don’t know if Amber would be within her rights to call the cops, I mean she is not paying any rent, right? Robin bought the house, I’m pretty sure Leslie owns the house and they are just a bunch of freeloaders. Robin is not even just throwing them out, she told Amber that she is giving her time to look for a place to stay and every thing, and even offered to help her look (probably help her do the actual moving and even give her money if necessary…Robin is pretty gracious with her money).
And I don’t really consider it all that mean a thing to do. She’s not being selfish, she is doing it for her and Leslie’s relationship. Yeah, she is putting her relationship with Leslie over her relationship with Amber, but I do not see why this is a problem. I mean…Amber doesn’t even like Robin, near as I can tell.
Leslie is totally within her rights to ask Amber to leave, as it IS her home, with her name on it, and Amber isn’t paying rent. However, I think both Leslie and Robin do Amber a disservices and are complete cowards for not telling her the truth about why they are asking Amber to leave. The haven sex with Mike thing was their excuse, not the real reason. And Amber feels like she did something embarrassing and wrong, not realizing that her friends cast her out, solely to make their relationship easier. Lies like that can hurt a lot. And that’s completely selfish of Robin and Leslie. And also, you’ll note only Amber is being asked to leave. Not Mike. How fair is that to Amber?
Amber went all Mark Trail on his ass…
All other comments aside… Geez, Amber – not in front of the “kids”!
Amber has clearly been spending too much time in Coffee of Doom.
Mike is totally playing Amber. Even taking a dive on a punch for effect.
Amber got the best of him with the whole blackmail thing and he’s going to retaliate with devastating force.
I predict that before he’s done she’ll be a psychological wreck. (And possibly learn a valuable lesson about something or the other.)
It pretty much has to play out like that. Mike is portrayed as a unstoppable force of nature. He can’t be defeated by a mortal, not even a little.
“Playtime is over”. I think Amber just marathoned That 70′s Show.
Mike’s overthinking it.
Mike is 100% correct. Amber is displaying her weakness again.
I get why she punched him, but this is kind of depressing. Especially the majority of the comments. Mike may be an ass-hole, but he’s never pretended to be anything else. Amber is blackmailing him into having sex with her (he might love her too, and they seem to be terribly codependent, but that’s how this started) and that could be considered rape. Dina basically date raped Mike in Walky too.
And yet the first comment on this page is “Dayum. I love Amber.”
Reverse the sexes and lets see that reaction again.
God, that was really preachy. Sorry. And it’s not against the storyline, it’s a great plot twist and even make sense given their characters.
This. All of it.
Honestly, if the genders were reversed I’d feel the exact same way I do now.
Reeeeeeeeally? You’d feel exactly the same way about a man blackmailing a woman into a relationship?
Okay, chief, if you say so.
WOOT! good for amber!
Damn. This is some good story telling. There are over 80 comments discussing what exactly it means and how people are responding, That’s some pretty gripping story telling right there.
aww totally hoping I would get sodomuffinfor my icon. (Willis has got to elaborate on how he and his roomate dreamed that up back in the day – perhaps a spinoff series?)
this is what went through my mind in the punching scene all at once
3.: MIKES GETTINA TASTE O’ HIS MEDICYNE!
Uh… wh- why is there a “nipple” tag? o_o
Welp, what he’s saying is absolutely true. Truth hurts. Amber needs to get out of that relationship and finally have a real one for once.
Goddamn it, Willis, I hide on the internet to avoid thinking about morality and other tough topics. …Although that you do things like this makes me like your work even more. Dammit, now I’m going to go all existentialist!
I still don’t see why she likes him, but I haven’t caught up to the current comics either.
I believe she’s merely proving his point in punching him.
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