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	<title>Comments on: Batman Begins</title>
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	<description>Toys are serious business.</description>
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		<title>By: Random bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-132149</link>
		<dc:creator>Random bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2013 22:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm. Just to be a pain in the ass I&#039;ll give my own opinion here. I actually dont like Batman at all when you talk about the comics, and I really only kind of liked the cartoons like Batman Beyond and the older cartoon before that, even though that was before my time and I only watched a few of those old, early 90&#039;s batman cartoons. SO I wasn&#039;t a big fan of Batman, but when I saw Batman Begins and the Dark Knight I loved those movies, especially the Dark Knight. It makes it more serious and believable, not cartoonish and cheesy, and of course The Joker from the Dark KNight was just amazing, best villain ever. Hes not so cheezy and unthreatening like the cartoon joker, I mean.... when u see the cartoon joker it doesnt really scare you, but when you see the Heath LEdger Joker, its very disturbing and shocking. But I agree Christian Bale&#039;s &quot;batman voice&quot; was awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm. Just to be a pain in the ass I&#8217;ll give my own opinion here. I actually dont like Batman at all when you talk about the comics, and I really only kind of liked the cartoons like Batman Beyond and the older cartoon before that, even though that was before my time and I only watched a few of those old, early 90&#8242;s batman cartoons. SO I wasn&#8217;t a big fan of Batman, but when I saw Batman Begins and the Dark Knight I loved those movies, especially the Dark Knight. It makes it more serious and believable, not cartoonish and cheesy, and of course The Joker from the Dark KNight was just amazing, best villain ever. Hes not so cheezy and unthreatening like the cartoon joker, I mean&#8230;. when u see the cartoon joker it doesnt really scare you, but when you see the Heath LEdger Joker, its very disturbing and shocking. But I agree Christian Bale&#8217;s &#8220;batman voice&#8221; was awful.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-128848</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 06:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend who has said this many times and I have to agree Christian Bale makes a far better Bruce Wayne than Batman but this is solely due to his practice in American Psycho</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who has said this many times and I have to agree Christian Bale makes a far better Bruce Wayne than Batman but this is solely due to his practice in American Psycho</p>
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		<title>By: TPKill</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-106675</link>
		<dc:creator>TPKill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 03:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about Superman is that it is from the wrong point of view. Superman is a super-powerful alien who frequently causes huge amounts of property damage. He does good without much motivation and therefore without much of a reason to continue doing good instead of, say, destroying the human race. In any other story it would be Lex Luthor who would be the good guy.
Lex is much like batman, someone with no powers whatsoever using just his brains to fight people who would otherwise be able to kill him by blinking. In fact I think Lex is almost as admirable as Batman. While Batman has fought Superman a couple of times Lex fights him on a regular basis and he&#039;s still alive. It&#039;s like an ant standing up to a god and being able to walk home afterwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about Superman is that it is from the wrong point of view. Superman is a super-powerful alien who frequently causes huge amounts of property damage. He does good without much motivation and therefore without much of a reason to continue doing good instead of, say, destroying the human race. In any other story it would be Lex Luthor who would be the good guy.<br />
Lex is much like batman, someone with no powers whatsoever using just his brains to fight people who would otherwise be able to kill him by blinking. In fact I think Lex is almost as admirable as Batman. While Batman has fought Superman a couple of times Lex fights him on a regular basis and he&#8217;s still alive. It&#8217;s like an ant standing up to a god and being able to walk home afterwards.</p>
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		<title>By: dragoonchris</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-62417</link>
		<dc:creator>dragoonchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can make fun of his voice like everyone else.

I don&#039;t get why people are complaining about his human side, most incarnations I see always talks about his parnets&#039; deaths that leads him becoming Batman. Episodes like Mad Hatter controlling Batman&#039;s mind, Dr. Strange seeing into Bruce&#039;s mind, or that alien plant landing on Batman woundn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can make fun of his voice like everyone else.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get why people are complaining about his human side, most incarnations I see always talks about his parnets&#8217; deaths that leads him becoming Batman. Episodes like Mad Hatter controlling Batman&#8217;s mind, Dr. Strange seeing into Bruce&#8217;s mind, or that alien plant landing on Batman woundn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Jetstream</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-61078</link>
		<dc:creator>Jetstream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seppuku. Now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seppuku. Now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave who hates bad pet owners</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-60546</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave who hates bad pet owners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 02:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment, not comic...Freudian slip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment, not comic&#8230;Freudian slip.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave who hates bad pet owners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave who hates bad pet owners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>College humor did a couple of great cartoons about the new movie Batman in the shared DC universe. Of course every comic in this thread has been made moot by the release of Miller&#039;s &quot;Batman Year One&quot; on DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>College humor did a couple of great cartoons about the new movie Batman in the shared DC universe. Of course every comic in this thread has been made moot by the release of Miller&#8217;s &#8220;Batman Year One&#8221; on DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan arrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan arrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 05:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hated Batman Begins not because Batman was &quot;human&quot; but because he was just a rich guy in a suit. He wasn&#039;t Batman. I want my Batman to be the world&#039;s greatest detective, not some shmuck in a Bat suit that just so happens to have enough money to buy brilliant people who can do his thinking for him. Also hated that Ras Al Ghul created Batman, Bruce had no ideas during the whole movie that were his own and the stupid girlfriend? Useless subplot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hated Batman Begins not because Batman was &#8220;human&#8221; but because he was just a rich guy in a suit. He wasn&#8217;t Batman. I want my Batman to be the world&#8217;s greatest detective, not some shmuck in a Bat suit that just so happens to have enough money to buy brilliant people who can do his thinking for him. Also hated that Ras Al Ghul created Batman, Bruce had no ideas during the whole movie that were his own and the stupid girlfriend? Useless subplot</p>
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		<title>By: Plasma Mongoose</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-38384</link>
		<dc:creator>Plasma Mongoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deconstructing a character can lead to many unfortunate conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deconstructing a character can lead to many unfortunate conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Zacula</title>
		<link>http://www.shortpacked.com/2005/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/07-body-massage-machine/a-68/#comment-31531</link>
		<dc:creator>Zacula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batman is more interesting psychologically, whilst Superman SHOULD be used for philosophical questions.  Mostly centering on the concept of the Uber-Menschen.  Truth be told, most modern incarnations of Superman are pretty bland and uninteresting.  The character has no depth and completely fails to hold my attention.   That said, Golden-Age Superman (can do everything humans can do, except much better) still counts as interesting to me.  As well as his clone/son/possible successor Superboy, whose past is almost as filled with random tragedy and horror as those of Batman&#039;s sidekicks.  His reporter girlfriend?  Died. Horribly.  His parentage?  Superman and Lex Luthor, the latter of which briefly made him turn on the hero community and still torments him for no particular reason.

Damn, I did a nerd rant again. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batman is more interesting psychologically, whilst Superman SHOULD be used for philosophical questions.  Mostly centering on the concept of the Uber-Menschen.  Truth be told, most modern incarnations of Superman are pretty bland and uninteresting.  The character has no depth and completely fails to hold my attention.   That said, Golden-Age Superman (can do everything humans can do, except much better) still counts as interesting to me.  As well as his clone/son/possible successor Superboy, whose past is almost as filled with random tragedy and horror as those of Batman&#8217;s sidekicks.  His reporter girlfriend?  Died. Horribly.  His parentage?  Superman and Lex Luthor, the latter of which briefly made him turn on the hero community and still torments him for no particular reason.</p>
<p>Damn, I did a nerd rant again. Sorry.</p>
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